I Don't Care How Many Covid "Cases" There Are. I Never Did. I Don't Care How Many of Them Are "Variants". I Never Did.

submitted by StillLessons from (self.politics)

Since the very early days of our life with this Establishment-Born virus, I have maintained the same perspective. To this day, I see no data about the virus that causes me to doubt my original conception.

So I repeat for the umpteenth time: There has never been any question that as a coronavirus, this new pathogen would be highly contagious. This is one of the defining features of coronaviruses. As such, "case" counts that consider anyone to have been exposed to the virus as a "case" are fundamentally unimportant information. We already knew this.

Another feature of coronaviruses is that they are unstable. In other words, they mutate readily and rapidly. Using the words "mutant" or "variant" thus are also equally unimportant information. This was a given from day one. Again, we already knew this.

The difference with this particular pathogen is that thanks to Fauci, Daszak, Xi and company, this coronavirus carries a greater punch of morbidity (illness) and mortality. Thanks guys for that! We really appreciate it.

Given the combination of the above, the number I do follow carefully is the number of people who are being hospitalized for Covid. I am also following closely the many clinicians (shout out in particular to Peter McCullough here) who have found ways to prevent Covid patients from being hospitalized and subsequently dying. Many clinicians have in fact had excellent results doing precisely that: helping people who have Covid to not become seriously ill with it. In the end, THAT is what matters.

And this is where things get scary. If everything were above board and the Establishment were true to its trumpeted compassion and effort to help alleviate the suffering from Covid, the above clinicians would be heroes. In other worlds, in the normal pre-Covid world, doctors who figured out how to save patients from the devastating effects of hospitalization (with or without death) from a new disease would be celebrated. This is what medicine IS.

And thus my deep fundamental suspicion of the vaccines. The same people who are telling us we must be vaccinated to save ourselves have gone way way out of their way to prevent these doctors from doing what they do. The establishment does not want doctors to treat covid patients before they enter the hospital. This is more disturbing than anything I have ever witnessed.

Combine it with the absolute ban on discussion of the harm being done by the vaccines, and there is no way I see a benevolent explanation for the full-court press mandate of 100% vaccination.

The ways in which the top of the medical governing bodies (NIAID, CDC, WHO, etc) have perverted established guidelines for dealing with respiratory pandemics (prior to 2019) tells us something is very centrally wrong here.

This bug is - in the end - just another respiratory virus behaving in fact very predictably. As a coronavirus, it is doing exactly what we would expect it to do, however much punch it packs. The response to it, however, is where we see things we have never seen before in medicine, never.

THAT is the scary part.

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[–]chadwickofwv 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The thing is, this virus isn't any more deadly than any before it. The numbers are are manipulated to show at least an order of magnitude more deaths than reality, and likely far more than that.

[–]Entropick 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is more disturbing than anything I have ever witnessed.

I've been thinking the same thing all day every day for a year+ now. That shit grates.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

There is no variant:
/s/conspiracy/comments/84pb/absolute_proof_of_covid_conspiracy_there_is_no/

It's an excuse for more poison /s/VaccineInjuries.

There is a UN depopulation /s/Agenda21_Agenda2030

/s/DepopulationWatch/comments/84v1/the_deagel_2025_depopulation_projections/

[–]iDontShift 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i find it semi-hilarious that folks are only now, and begrudgingly noticing medicine is garbage

trauma care = good

medicinal health = bad

of course there are exceptions. but in general, these are the rules

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I Don't Care How Many Covid "Cases" There Are. I Never Did.

Do you care how many people die?

There has never been any question that as a coronavirus, this new pathogen would be highly contagious.

It wasn't particularly contagious. R was about 2 for the first variant. Delta is much more contagious.

This is one of the defining features of coronaviruses.

Not really. As a zoonotic virus, it's going to be not that great at spreading between humans initially, since it's adapted for spreading in bats.

Give it time though. Viruses adapt pretty fast, if there's a lot of them out there.

Using the words "mutant" or "variant" thus are also equally unimportant information. This was a given from day one. Again, we already knew this.

It makes it important for everyone who can to get vaccinated though. Once we drop the number of these little buggers out there, the number of new variants that will show up will also reduce, reducing the chance of one of them being really nasty.

The difference with this particular pathogen is that thanks to Fauci, Daszak, Xi and company, this coronavirus carries a greater punch of morbidity (illness) and mortality. Thanks guys for that! We really appreciate it.

Long covid is pretty nasty, and it's deadlier than most flus. But it's not at all deadly compared to deadly viruses. Such as ebola. The published research on bat coronaviruses that was funded by the CDC didn't make it deadly. It made it possible to infect human cells. The modification was to the spike protein.

helping people who have Covid to not become seriously ill with it. In the end, THAT is what matters.

Wiping out the virus matters too.

In other worlds, in the normal pre-Covid world, doctors who figured out how to save patients from the devastating effects of hospitalization (with or without death) from a new disease would be celebrated. This is what medicine IS.

Treating the disease is also medicine. Avoiding the disease is also medicine. Not just alleviating the serious symptoms. In Infectious diseases, finding and killing the infection is primarily what it is.

The establishment does not want doctors to treat covid patients before they enter the hospital.

By far the best treatment that we have for that, it to avoid getting infected. Vaccinations (and masks) are the best tools for this, and are being pushed by this "the establishment" person you're talking about. Certainly by most governments anyway.

Combine it with the absolute ban on discussion of the harm being done by the vaccines, and there is no way I see a benevolent explanation for the full-court press mandate of 100% vaccination.

There's plenty of discussion about the harm of vaccines. AZ is not even being used in a lot of first world countries for younger people because of a 1 in a million death risk from blood clots in the brain.

The ways in which the top of the medical governing bodies (NIAID, CDC, WHO, etc) have perverted established guidelines for dealing with respiratory pandemics (prior to 2019) tells us something is very centrally wrong here.

So as the human population increases, we know that pandemics will arise more than in the past. Some of them will be deadly. A serious response has been prepared because of the growing awareness of a serious problem. CoVID, with it's couple of weeks of infectiousness prior to the expression of symptoms is the problem. But it's not even bad in terms of deadliness and infectiousness. There's a much worse one coming sooner or later. We need to have a plan.

[–]skeeterPresidential Hopeful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

the UNVAXXED just want to kill innocent children!

[–]AssaultCoder 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There are no innocents anymore.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Did every respectable child and animal leave this planet? I didn't get the memo

[–]skeeterPresidential Hopeful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Vaccines cause autism.

https://youtu.be/ZqizB87kkhc

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you and the previous user are bot-like.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Then stop posting about it.

[–]StillLessons[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Stop mandating unproven genetic therapies, forcing people to wear absurd facial coverings, and destroying our ability to make a living based on Covid, and I promise you will never hear from me again on the subject.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Stop taking actions that spread a deadly, rapidly mutating virus. Otherwise, I will force you to do those things if you want to interact with me.

[–]StillLessons[S] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

Please tell me these actions I am taking? I control the spread of this virus? One of two things has happened in the time since we learned of its existence. Either I have never come in contact with it, despite all the actions you are going to tell me I am taking to ensure that I should have come into contact with it, or I have come into contact with it, my innate immune system killed it, and did this so effectively that none of the other people I know ever came down with it either. In either case, I haven't spread the virus. What are these actions I should not be doing?

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I just found out that over 99% of the people dying from COVID now are unvaccinated.

So feel free to not get a vaccine.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

https://scitechdaily.com/more-vaccinated-people-are-dying-of-covid-in-england-than-unvaccinated-heres-why/

[–]StillLessons[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Very interesting article. Thanks.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210629/almost-all-us-covid-19-deaths-now-in-the-unvaccinated

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah that's the interesting thing, the two findings are in conflict. The US, both pharmaceutical companies and the CDC have a history of ... massaging ... if outright fabricating is too strong a term, pharmaceutical data. I'm less inclined to take it at face value.

[–]Daddiescummies 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

They aren't: In the US, most of the population is vaccinated, which means vaccinations are equally distributed among vulnerable (mainly elderly) and less vulnerable. In the UK, most of the vaccinated population is also extremely vulnerable. So there are fewer deaths overall because of vaccines, but those deaths are still concentrated in the vaccinated vulnerable population.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The vaccination rates for people who received both shots look very similar to me 49% vs 54% and vaccinations in the US are higher for the elderly, 80% fully vaccinated, they got first crack at the vaccinations..

The UK says 90% elderly have been vaccinated, who also got first crack at the vaccines.

So the numbers look very similar but the one story is that the unvaccinated are the ones getting infected almost exclusively, while the other story is that the vaccinated elderly are still the most at risk group. There is a way both could be true, but that's not really how this story is being spun, this is (although from a different story)

Walensky called it “a pandemic of the unvaccinated.” Fully vaccinated individuals can still get Covid-19, but they are protected against the worst of it. They should not need hospitalization and will almost certainly not die

And that shouldn't be different in the US than in the UK.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No