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[–]Pononimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Hi! My family and I are Conservatives stuck in the hell hole of California and we keep flip flopping between moving to Texas or Florida. What we want is to live in a place that's going to remain free, independent and real America for as long as possible so what can you tell me about Texas? (I've only been to Austin one time and that was back in the 70s so that doesn't count.)

[–]Salsashark 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It varies. My town is one of the most Conservative in the US. Our big BLM protest was 60 upper middle class white college kids from west Texas. If they broke a window they'd be immediately shut down. There's no woke sensitivity and Race Theory here. You can still interact with kids without being accused of pedophilia. Nobody is going to accuse you of rape for whistling at them. It's pretty chill here. And we just became a constitutional carry state, so you don't need a license to carry anymore.

[–]Pononimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hey, thanks again for that. I really appreciate it. :)

[–]PatsyStone 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

What specifically are you interested in knowing?

[–]Pononimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Anything you can tell me but, mostly, what are the people there really like? Are they friendly? Open? Generally honest, decent folks? I would imagine so but I would like to read about you all from someone who actually lives there. Where I live nobody talks to each other beyond Hi and Bye, nobody knows each other. I've lived in my present neighborhood for almost ten years and there are neighbors who I see regularly who have never said hello and seem scared to say hi to anyone. On top of that the whole state's a Liberal Leftist sh*thole. I can't go downtown anymore without seeing massive hobo camps everywhere and bums begging money on every street corner, syringes on the sidewalks, shit and piss everywhere. It's horrible, as I'm sure you can imagine.

[–]PatsyStone 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Sorry it took me so long to reply.

My guess would be that Florida is a better fit for a Cali expat just based on what people from California who've moved here have told me. There's definitely culture shock. I used to work for a guy who was born and raised in Bakersfield (according to him pretty redneck) and he would complain constantly about this and that that was different here. He'd been here five years already at the time and was still having a hard time adjusting.

Texans, in general, are very outgoing and talkative. People in line places will yap your ear off about random bullshit. It can get old! Trust.

We have a real distinct sense of personal responsibility and honor that comes from the Scots Irish who settled here. We eat Mexican and German fusion food. We live for drama. We will make anything out to be a noble war of good and evil if we can. We secretly love tornados, except when people get killed. We don't give one flying fuck about California and people will get irritated if you keep telling stories about Cali. Yes, we're secretly jealous.

Fitting in here can depend on what type of place you move to. If you move to a big suburb there will be lots of transplants you will fit it pretty quickly, but it will chillier and more disconnected like where you are from.

Small towns are run by the descendants of the original settlers. If your family hasn't been there at least three generations you will have a hard time fitting in. It's doable, it just takes years.

Best areas are the Hill Country, Corpus Christi area, Fort Worth area, Amarillo area (very isolated though,) and San Angelo (even more isolated, but a great place to live.)

[–]Pononimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

First, no problem about the time it took for you to reply. Aha! Okay, I'm really enjoying what you posted because it sounds like the kind of place I'd like to be. Sorry about that Bakersfield guy who keeps complaining. To be honest, we don't have any real rednecks out here; just Californians in flannel shirts. Real rednecks don't complain, they just get things done. Now, I find it weird that you mention Californians who spend too much time talking about California? Why? If someone leaves a hell hole wouldn't they prefer to forget about it? I know I'm going to! I can understand why you'd secretly be jealous of California but trust me! There is NOTHING TO BE JEALOUS OF! Sure, we have mountains. So does Texas. Sure, we have the Pacific Ocean (with vast stretches of rock, seaweed, broken glass and garbage strewn beaches full of homeless camps) but you have the Gulf Coast with those beautiful snow white talcum powder beaches and bath tub warm surf. Sure, California has big, historical cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles but I'll bet your cities aren't packed with homeless campgrounds who've turned those cities into open cesspits and syringe disposal areas. I'll also bet that your cities are a lot safer than those in California so, again, what's to be jealous of? As for the food, well, hey, I don't have a problem with Tex Mex as long as it's good (but if you serve me a Quesadilla or Chile Relleno made with anything less than real Mexican Qeso and Crema I'm liable to cuss you out! (Nah, just kidding. LOL.)

Funny you mention tornados because I've always had a fascination with them. Although I actually can't say I'm jealous of the things I wouldn't mind seeing one occasionally from far, far, far away! Hmm... Suburbs don't sound good to me. I don't want to move into what I'm trying to leave so that's out but a small town does sound good to me because, frankly, our family just wants to live in peace and quite, away from all the noise. (Where I live there are FIVE different airports, FOUR of them military.) Don't get me wrong: I support our military but there's nothing quite like the sound of a C5A transport taking off at five in the morning to bring you instantly awake. (Works better than coffee! Trust me!) lol. Something that just occurs to me that sways me even more in the direction of Texas is that Florida, although traditionally conservative, has always been politically influenced by the Northern Liberal Snowbirds who visited and then settled there, particularly New York Liberals who went there to retire, turning the state bluer and bluer over the years. But now the Democrats are working hard to turn that state completely blue as quickly as they can and the only thing standing in their way is the incredible and amazing Governor Ron DiSantos who's working hard to protect all Floridians and preserve traditional ways. But, what happens when his term expires? Even worse, what happens if DiSantos is replaced with a Lackey commie Leftist Democrat; a terrifying thought. Conversely, Texas has always been and continues to be staunch and steadfast in the defense and protection of traditional ways and, from what I've seen, those who don't accept and adopt those ways don't do well and even leave sooner or later. To me, that gives Texas and its people a kind of continuity that's not found in other states. Also, finally, there's the option in the Texas State Constitution that gives Texas the legal right to seceded from the United States if things get too bad so there's that to consider, too. Okay, I'm making notes of those four towns you listed and I'm going to be doing my home work on them. Thanks so much for all of this great info! I really appreciate it! :D

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    [–]Pononimus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Wow, again, thanks for your reply. It's really appreciated. I'm glad you're feeling better about Texas. From what I've seen it's a great state full of great people. I'm glad I can eat Tex Mex all the time if I want to but I won't because my wife makes so many great things that aren't Tex Mex too so we have lots of options. I know this may not sound good but she makes this Cabbage and Sausage thing that's out of this world! Work at this point is not an option for my wife and I as we are at retirement age. We do have a disabled daughter so I may have to consider coming out of retirement. I'm sure I could find a job in the Computer industry (repair/building) so that wouldn't be a problem. Thanks for the compliment! Appreciate it but it's just true that if anyone tries to go to Texas and they bring their Liberal BS attitudes with 'em they're going to get ground up and spit out. It just makes sense.

    Huh! I never heard about that "Texas splitting up into five pieces, before. That's new to me but I didn't know that secession was illegal for Texas so I'm glad you cleared that up for me. Again, thanks for all your help and great information. I really do appreciate it. Thanks again!

    [–]Pononimus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Your governor is awesome! I just finished watching this video. This guy rocks!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGcah67cs_A

    [–]StrategicTactic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Texas is pretty big. There is a great difference between different areas. Austin is far closer to California with the amount of leftists in there, plus their motto is "Keep Austin weird" which describes the mentality pretty well. San Antonio and Dallas are in a similar boat. Fort Worth is the largest city governed by the right, but it still is a pretty big city so most have the city mentality (I don't know you, but as long as you are cool, we cool). Smaller cities and towns will have more neighborly views, likely wanting to know who you are and what you are up to (more as conversation and getting to know you than being aggressive).

    Lately I have noticed a general decrease in driving skill. I mention this because I see it as a measure of hospitality- knowing how to drive at the appropriate speed in the appropriate lane is part of being a good neighbor. If the guy who drives the speed limit has to go into the passing lane because the middle lane is taken by someone going under, then the speeder weaves in and out of the right lane. This aggravates all involved. Ten years ago you could count on someone making room for you in traffic. Now you might find room, or you might not.

    In many ways the core of America has been independent stubbornness. If you believe that, Texas is perhaps one of the most patriotic of states, embodying its values. There is a reason about 40% of our armed forces volunteer from Texas. If you need help and ask, people will help, but generally you are expected to deal with stuff on your own, and you will get left alone. As I mentioned at the start, however, Texas is big and what you experience will greatly vary depending on where you are.

    If you haven't dealt with Texas summer though, you might want to try it before you decide. Texas is noticeably hot. It isn't Arizona or New Mexico, but getting above 100 F every year is pretty common. I think just a decade ago Dallas had 100 days of 100 degree weather in one year.

    [–]Pononimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Hi! First, I want to greatly thank you for your long and very informative post. You told me all of the important things and I really appreciate that. You mention Austin and the other big cities in Texas and those places are fine for those who want to live there but, honestly, me and my family really would much prefer one of the smaller towns you mentioned, where the old Down Home Small Town ways still exist, where folks will come and say hello with a happy smile and a pan of Corn Bread. (You have no idea how much I miss that.) Hmm... I like the idea of folks still being self supportive and independent. That's just the way I've been all my life; fiercely independent, not wanting help from anyone but always happy to help others. As for heat, well... I live in the more "conservative" (yeah, right...) Central Valley of California and we also have intense summer heat where it will frequently and regularly go up to 112-115 degrees in the summer but the humidity is low so it's really not that bad if you don't have to be out in it for a long time. But, even if Texas had high temperatures and high humidity I wouldn't care because I'd happily deal with Texas humidity rather than California stupidity! lol Thanks again for the info. :)