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[–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (38 children)

perhaps i'm playing a sorta devil's advocate here: if you look at history he's got a point.

edit: so some ppl clearly can't distinguish a real human being from current level machine-generated text. for this purpose i created a project that generates text and do low-frequency posting on saidit: https://saidit.net/s/technology/comments/7yb2/saidit_chat_bot/

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (37 children)

You're confusing white supremacy for Zionist supremacy.

[–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (36 children)

explain zionist supermacy cause it doesn't produce a wikipedia page.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

explain zionist supermacy cause it doesn't produce a wikipedia page.

I can't tell if you're serious or joking.

" To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. " ~ misattributed to Voltaire

Wikipedia is utterly compromised. It's a good starting point for the "official narrative" on anything, but if you seek deeper information you won't find it there, especially on politically sensitive content.

There are more Christian Zionists than there are Jewish Zionists, but Jews dominate the top levels of Zionism - so it's both a Jewish issue and not a Jewish issue. Also important to note, most Jews are normal folks like anyone else, mostly brainwashed sheeple playing the roles they are given, often as "victims under the white male patriarchy".

Without exception, all centers of power are dominated by Zionists: banks, media, governments, military, energy, transportation, food, industry, resources, etc.

The Five Eyes deep state surveillance network over all English speaking countries (and I suspect the world) includes: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom, and the United States - as well as Israel.

Similarly, Israel claims to be the victim while stomping on Palestine. Their victim card is transparent and the facade is crumbling. Zionists use the larger Jewish population as human shields, claiming that if you hate Zionism you are anti-Semitic. Meanwhile Palestinians are also Semitic people that we're trying to help.

Nearly everyone in our governments and in "mainstream" corporate media is a bought Zionist - as are all the "experts" on everything from science to education to the environment.

[–]blowininthewind 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

i'm not joing, the term 'white supermacy' produces a wikipedia page while the term 'zionist supermacy' does not.

i think the whole idea of placing modern israel where it is comes from the british divide and conquer idea. at the start of the last century, seeing that the arab world is revolutionizing, britain knows that it cannot make it stable in the future. (british upper class colonizers, not lawrence of arabia which people loved to this day) and it is very possible that stalin does not want to see a unified middle east either because he knows that america might very well control there. so he supported the state of israel too. now that's the start of the century. i did not study that much as to why america supported the state of israel over the rest of the middle east, but i would imagine it's for a very similar reason. at the surface it would look more zionist than usual because american leaders share the judeo-christian faith with israelie ones. yet this could also be explained as a fundamental flaw from the arabic society, that tribes are what people listen to and fight for, not nations. i call this a flaw because this way of organizing a people fails to compete with modern states on all sides, be it economics, military, or culture. the arab springs and other movements has deep roots in this problematic way of organizing society, that as long as a beduin is killing a howietat for revenge, the arabs will, well, not be a big people, a smart people, as lawrence of arabia famously remarked in the movie.

the state of israel still stands today partly due to its rather advanced civilization compared to its neighbours, partly due to the great sense of danger among the jewish population rising from the holocaust. but it had the chance to survive because the plans of the bigger nations to keep the arab world from unifying and stopping their rival's world domination plans.

as to the zionists dominating the world, well i do not think so. otherwise they'd at least do a better job at controlling covid. any dominating power wants a stable society. just look at how safe it is to walk the streets in authoritarian governments. because there's no mobsters there. and they certainly would not allow virus to harass their people, whom they can always profit from. so that's the picture of a world under some kidna domination. and that's not the picture of the west as you have claimed.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Regarding Stalin, do you know much about the Red Mafiya and Ashkenazi Jewish influence in Russia? I know some about these but not where they overlap, as it seems obvious there must have been some great or small interactions though history.

judeo-christian faith

Manufactured nonsense for social engineered tolerance and consent.

israel still stands today partly due to its rather advanced civilization compared to its neighbours

Yes but no. Dominant forces have meddled, infiltrated, manipulated, exploited, oppressed, and murdered millions. Disaster capitalism creates chaos to rebuild with rigged systems. Everywhere. This is not new.

Pretending for a moment that 6 million Jews actually died among the 75 million killed in WWII, why doesn't anyone care about the rest? Shouldn't there be more new "homelands" and such for those who suffered?

do a better job at controlling covid.

COVID is another false narrative to oppress people. Quarantine the sick and weak and the rest is obviously tyranny for their Great Reset, New Normal, and vaccine passport in service of their depopulation and slave state /s/Agenda21_Agenda2030.

just look at how safe it is to walk the streets in authoritarian governments. because there's no mobsters there.

ALL politicians are mobsters.

and they certainly would not allow virus to harass their people, whom they can always profit from.

1) You can't be certain of this at all.

2) The perpetual sickcare system is exceptionally profitable and powerful.

cc /u/Jesus

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I believe Mullins wrote a decent book on this sickcare you speak of.

Murder by Injection: The Medical Conspiracy Against America by Eusatce Mullins... though, I believe Mullins became controlled and was likely a Fed at some point in time.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds interesting.

I used a "Sickcare" as a substitute term for the rigged and allopathic medicine and perpetual profitable big pharma "healthcare".

[–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

i'd agree that all politicians are mobsters. but note that the best mobsters are quite civilized when they make money. it's the lower level mobsters that do the dirty work.

russia suffered the greatest loss in world war 2, the second is china, but the holocaust is remembered, along with the rape of nanking, because they're not warfare. if warfare is white and ethnic cleansing is black, a lot of world war 2 is grey. but those two events are completely black: trained and armed soldiers against virtually defenseless civilians. nanking put up a very fierce fight using what was the best of the chinese military at the time, so in a way the japanese were letting out their anger. but holocaust is planned from beginning to the very end, however malicious its adversary (jewish people) might be, they're virtually defenseless.

history is full of coincidences, not planned actions. in the long run, nearly all plans fail, and nearly all coincidences happen to shape the course of history. external conditions (geography, climate, etc.) have much more effect on history than plans. to say history can be planned by a few plotting in the dark is to say command economy is effective ---- since a few can plan history by themselves, why don't half a dozen socialist nations produce a single good command economy?

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

it's the lower level mobsters that do the dirty work.

Agreed.

if warfare is white and ethnic cleansing is black, a lot of world war 2 is grey.

Excellent analogy (aside from potential racial misinterpretations).

but holocaust is planned from beginning to the very end, however malicious its adversary (jewish people) might be, they're virtually defenseless.

If you buy the official narrative. Climate change was my hardest red pill to swallow. The second hardest was looking at Holocaust skepticism, but once you realize it's a huge exaggeration you can't unsee that. Here's a long documentary that presents many of the best arguments to remain skeptical: https://www.bitchute.com/video/4oXNuZIaYFVt/

history is full of coincidences, not planned actions.

No. It's full of both coincidences and conspiracies.

in the long run, nearly all plans fail, and nearly all coincidences happen to shape the course of history.

Broad baseless generality nonsense.

a few plotting in the dark

Why bother in the dark when they can do it in the open with government, deep state, secret agencies, NGOs, councils, groups, commissions, think tanks, militaries, etc, while feeding everyone misinformation on the media they monopolize and control?

why don't half a dozen socialist nations produce a single good command economy?

I don't understand this question. Which nations? What do you mean by "socialist"? The term means many things these days. And what do you mean by "produce a single good command economy?"

Furthermore, what does it have to do with conspiracies, Russians, and Zionists? I'm not saying it's not all connected on many levels but this has gone from specific to widely abstract and moot.

[–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

i don't think holocaust is a huge exaggeration, in that the allies have no need to exaggerate it at its discovery in '45. the allies knew from world war 1 that it's best to heal the wounds than tear your opponent apart, as france did to germany in the inter-war period. hence the marshal plan, the democratic germany PM's kneeling, the EU, etc. under this narrative it'd be best for the allies to downplay the holocaust. i think the fifties is a moment when good miraculously won over the evil.

as to our different view on history, here's what i think: vietnam turned capitalist, russia turned capitalist, the brilliant cccp scientists failed to produce a good computer that lasted til this day, americans and the west produced the backbone of the brand new computer industry by freely roaming around, really. china turned capitalist, cuba is now opening up. on the other side look at iran, north korea. all the balkan states are capitalist now. seriously the only social democracies that is genuinely good are all in northern europe.

oftentimes history is like: i planned this, then that happened, so the entire thing becomes another, totally unexpected thing. why? because history runs in parallel. a million things are happening simultaneously and you never know which ten of them is going to determine the main course of the future.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

i don't think holocaust is a huge exaggeration

Because you haven't skeptically researched it. Once you start it all becomes very clear very quickly.

in that the allies have no need to exaggerate it at its discovery in '45

Nonsense. You're sadly mistaken if you think the war was over then. The next few years saw half a million Germans executed, Nazis and civilians alike. https://saidit.net/search?q=Hellstorm Check this out, watch the Spinning Squirrel documentary I linked you previously and read this: https://infogalactic.com/info/Truther_Top_20_Counter_Points_To_The_Official_Holocaust_Story Then debate me.

It wasn't "discovered". Concentration slave camps were well known on both sides. There were no death camps. That's an exaggeration and myth that was developed post-war. ALL of Europe was in a fuel and food and typhoid crisis, along with the war. That is why you see the piles of hundreds of corpses (not millions).

The Holocaust didn't pick up mainstream propaganda attention until the 1970s. Why wait so long?

the allies

Were the victors and liars about the German underdogs led by a maniac. All government is evil. German citizens did not deserve their fate, nor did the rest of Europe and Russia, nor the rest of the world. WWI and WWII and the Balfour Declaration were all planned in the 1800s while Queen Victoria was a reclusive junkie and her son Edward was actually an effective and brilliant tyrant.

The Dresden firebombing was war crime against humanity, as were the atom bombs, and many other events of WWII. No one was punished. Of course the victors get to write history as they see fit to justify their sins and everyone else's narrative gets demonized.

i think the fifties is a moment when good miraculously won over the evil.

Nonsense. The focus of the ruling class and their evil schemes simply shifted and grew over a world suffering in post-war trauma. Wars for Korea and Vietnam were planned well in advance.

as to our different view on history

I agree. The commies have become more capitalist and the capitalists have become more communist. The result: everyone is more totalitarian (a fusion of the two) and the lockdown has exponentially accelerated the globalists totalitarian tyranny. Northern Europe seems nice from afar but I also know they are not exempt from corruption or tyranny.

oftentimes history is like: i planned this, then that happened, so the entire thing becomes another, totally unexpected thing.

Not unexpected. It's the Hegelian dialectic: thesis, antithesis, synthesis or problem, reaction, solution. If I'm a politician and want more control I let shit slide until the people demand I take more action to clamp down with more power. No one else in the world runs a scam like the government: fail harder to get an increase in pay and power.

a million things are happening simultaneously and you never know which ten of them is going to determine the main course of the future.

Yes but no. A million things are not equally important. Government is both very slow to react AND very fast. If you want something processed quickly or slowly it ultimately depends on who is driving it. The powers that should not be may be slower to respond to a natural organic authentic social movement but when they do they have all the force of the mainstream and usually come with more than enough preparation to get even the stupidest corrupt concepts pushed into the common consciousness, by brute force if necessary. This includes myths about WWII victims.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

as to the zionists dominating the world, well i do not think so. otherwise they'd at least do a better job at controlling covid. any dominating power wants a stable society. just look at how safe it is to walk the streets in authoritarian governments. because there's no mobsters there. and they certainly would not allow virus to harass their people, whom they can always profit from. so that's the picture of a world under some kidna domination. and that's not the picture of the west as you have claimed.

Zionist Jew's dominate the Vaccine revolution and COVID two-edged sword narrative.

any dominating power wants a stable society.

Not a dominating power that uses other nations as its host to steal funds and weapons for it's international agenda.

judeo-christian faith

Today's Jews are the Pharisees and they all reject Christ...

just look at how safe it is to walk the streets in authoritarian governments. because there's no mobsters there.

I cannot even....

[–]blowininthewind 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

israel did have the highest vaccination rate quite early on in the vaccination process. 10%, the highest in the world, i recall.

the stable society thing should have a 'domestic' attached to it, agree. that's what i meant originally. as to foreign societies, well, it varies by ideology.

i have a feeling that israel and the west moves together. look at turkey over the last century, how much it strives to westernize and how many times the west arrogantly rejected the turks. israel? no problem, we'd provide everything.

mafia only survive in anarchy, democracy, and a dying authoritarian government. that's politics 101 stuff.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, Israel... the light unto the nations. Most of the vaccines Israeli Jews recieved were saline.

[–]blowininthewind 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

well how would you know that, right? opinions get together to form more opinions, then they eventually form groups, like stars from gas clouds. but if they're not rooted in facts, they'll stray further and further away from reality and eventually become ineffective, gets thrown away by the future.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

[–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (18 children)

aaron schwartz did an experiment a long time ago and wrote an article called 'who writes wikipedia?' in which he points out that there's an inner circle of wikipedia users, a couple hundred people, formatting and re-organizing all the articles on it, making well over half the edits on the entire site. yet the bulk of information is contributed by the masses, he concludes.

i've seen conservative wikipedia somewhere. i forgot where. but if you could provide a source that'd be great.

also, in the future, please have constructive conversations that are based on facts, not opinions.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Are you a bot? Something about your rhetoric gives me that impression. I don't care about Conservative wiki or whatever you are gibbering about; wikipedia and most sites are owned by Zionists. Read books.

[–]blowininthewind 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

no, i know how gpt works, along with textgan, bert, etc. used to make money doing that, offering people 'advice' (i feel bad but it's money) when it's really just generated text. if you doubt me, i can make a bot that does low-frequency chatting on saidit, and post the link to you. now, the reason you know that i'm not is because my speech varies too much to be classified as that. these language models generate text based on previous text generated in the short task, which gives the text a very connected feeling.

if you don't care, others will. many cared about aaron's cause, for example. but to me you cannot even define the term 'Zionist supremacy' to me. a political movement must have words backing it up. so furthermore i don't think whatever that's related to 'Zionist supremacy' would succeed because not much thought have been put into it.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Dude, you're 100% a bot. I can tell. /u/Jasoncarswell

Your writing style is not human like.

But nevertheless, Zionism is a corporate ideology initialised at the Zionist Basel "eugenics" congresses funded by over 900 multi-national foreign corporations to commercialise Palestine via foreged documents and later by the bomb and sword. Zionism isn't a belief... it is a shitty sub-franchise McDonalds centered on resources and money and it just so happens Jews become the center pieces in this scam that they don't see that the universalist Jews eventually be scapegoated. Nevertheless, Zionism is also fueled by false biblical and secular nationalistic zealotry and Supremacist orthodox Judaism which pretends to be anti-Zionist but then asks for government welfare and security. The Jewish establishemnt in the US funds 95% of Zionist causes that is FOREIGN TO US interests.

[–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

sure, i'd spend some free time to make a saidit bot then. here's the project link: https://github.com/simin75simin/saiditchatbot i've wanted to do this kinda thing for a long time, machine speech is not good.

if you're a reader and not a commenter be sure to check out my libgen mass book downloading project: https://github.com/simin75simin/libgencrawl

lol.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Neat tools. See also: /s/SaidItBots

You interested in helping us branch out the SaidIt community out?

We're not only trying to raise decentralized platforms and forums, build bridges between them, and also to archive and distribute web-scrapes of all the shared content.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I don't know about bot, but their comments do drift off focus. Some people have half a conversation in their head and forget to lay down breadcrumbs for everyone else follow their train of thought, much less have a point.

which gives the text a very connected feeling

Bot or not, that's not what I feel.

Zionism is a corporate ideology...

That was okay (not great) for me, but it certainly wasn't your best if your definition was meant to connect and educate the normie sheeple.

Next Saturday at our weekly local Windsor Ontario lockdown protests I'm finally going to say a few words about Agenda 2030 to give many there a wider contextual understanding to explain the chaos and why we really need prepare, organize, and resist. I'll be avoiding the "Zionist problem" this time around. Not quite sure how to summarize it in just a couple minutes. Off hand do you know of anything short I can just read off?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Ahhh, anything by Alice McDowell, Corey Morningstar, TheWrongKindofGreen blog and the Art of Annihilation blog is a start. They put out wonderful detailed work on where we are heading.

[–]blowininthewind 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

go join a cult and stop using that name plz.

along with Jasoncarswell, you guys are obsessive. my hands are numb typing up replies even though i code for a living.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

among the jewish population rising from the holocaust. but it had the chance to survive because the plans of the bigger nations to keep the arab world from unifying and stopping their rival's world domination plans. --BlowintheeindZionist

Hmmmm

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

which gives the text a very connected feeling

Bot or not, that's not what I feel.

but to me you cannot even define the term 'Zionist supremacy' to me.

So far as I saw, he nor I attempted to define it yet, so to say we cannot is premature. All we've shown is how compromised Wikipedia is, and that was just a surface scratch. It's rotten to the core.

a political movement must have words backing it up.

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Obviously you're oblivious to the real power that we're not allowed to openly speak of without suffering censorship on all the major platforms.

[–]blowininthewind 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

dude, chill. if you're interested in this kinda stuff, maybe i'd use ray and delegate a part of the compute for training onto your machine. otherwise, mind your own biz, i'm sure it's not politics lol.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Zionist supremacy and the corporatocracy are the greatest threats to humanity.

"dude, chill." is not an adequate defense of Zionism nor any kind of respectful discussion.

Just because you don't understand it because it's not in the mainstream media that they control, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

My biz is resisting tyranny.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

making well over half the edits on the entire site. yet the bulk of information is contributed by the masses, he concludes.

Ya, but no.

The majority of the edits were tiny, from punctuation to grammar tweaks to adding a citation here and there. Meanwhile, the bulk of the article bodies were written by people who made only a few big contributions rather than hundreds or thousands of tiny one like the "core" editors/janitors.

Fact: Conservapedia, Metapedia, and InfoGalactic, among others, all exist.

please have constructive conversations that are based on facts

LOL.

[–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

fucking chill already. i'm just a layperson who think about these things a lot and have some ideas about where things might go from here.

aaron became aaron because he wrote a lot of useful code, made a lot of real effort to change the world. from a very early age he excelled at both of these, and thus people made a documentary about him, the internet's own son. so when he's thirty years old, some of his programs became standards of the internet, and some of his ideas became congressional bills (SOPA, i think, look at his wikipedia page, or .gov page if you don't trust wikipedia).

if you really want to mold the world by your will, earn some serious money, write some really nice code, develop neat pieces of technology. then you have a real say in this world. because you can give your money away and become a part of an interest group or you can use your technology to gain productivity at scale.

humanity 101: we value productivity. whomever provides we respect.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I am chill. No matter how many times you claim I'm not won't change that.

the internet's own son.

They glossed over some of his human minor flaws but it was an excellent documentary.

Aaron was against SOPA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#Opposition_to_the_Stop_Online_Piracy_Act_(SOPA) You seem to be able to recall things but invert them.

earn some serious money

That's only possible if you sell out and support the establishment.

write some really nice code, develop neat pieces of technology.

We're trying to develop decentralized alternative platforms for truth-seekers (/s/Cassy, /s/PhoenixForum). I'm not I.T. so I can only try to help organize and manage and host instances.

then you have a real say in this world.

Or - on those instances (when they actually come online), as a 30+year professional animator and director I will be developing, managing, producing, and publishing counter-propaganda.

humanity 101: we value productivity. whomever provides we respect.

Great slogan!

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. Saved. Thanks.