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[–]Zapped 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

I must be reading something different because that's not how I interpret it.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

Explain; and person = corporation in legalese.

[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

u/AnarchySpeach summed it up pretty well. I do not agree with you that the U.S. is a corporation.

[–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The US is 100% a corporation and anyone who denies this by doing a lazy google search has no idea what they are talking about.


Here here... indeed... the United States a corporation, evidence:

http://books.google.com/books?id=hQMoAAAAYAAJ

(corporation codes and Act of 1871)

P. 86 Municipal Corporations Enactment and Contents.

...No particular form of words is necessary to the creation of a municipal corporation, although a particular form of words is generally used for this purpose, the question whether a particular statute creates a municipal cor poration is one of legislative intent.

Fictio Legis Neminem Laedit

A corporation is a collection of NATURAL PERSONS, joined together by they voluntary action or by legal compulsion, by or under the authority of an act of the legislature, consisting either of a special charter or of a general permissive statute, to accomplish some purpose, pecuniary, ideal, or GOVERNMENTAL, authorized by the...

It will thus be seen that a corporation is not only a LEGAL ENTITY or ARTIFICIAL PERSON separate and distinct from the NATURAL PERSONS (fascism 4 da lulz) who compose it, but it is also a collection of INDIVIDUALS, and this conception of it is recognized by the courts whenever the FICTION of the LEGAL ENTITY is urged to a purpose NOT WITHIN ITS REASON.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo-3K4OXUAUFiHf?format=png&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo_F_oeWEAAqpdK?format=png&name=small

The U.S. Corporation is NOT a democracy. It is literally "res publicae"...a charter corporati

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVTbgnxUQAAlnuf?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiCQPsVUYAAX0TL?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiCupeFVAAA4oSz?format=jpg

"On republic". The United States corporation is made up of sub-franchise State corporations, incorporated at the time of charter post 1783.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiDUO_WVQAAhdtp?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiDWDyxU8AA-24P?format=jpg&name=small

constitutional republic" (as neither America Inc. nor U.S. Corp. are "democracies") literally means in latin...

"Charter Corporations" (res publicae, i.e., "The People", e.g., fictional "persons" i.e., Thomas Hobbes "Leviathan")...

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

/u/AnarchySpeech and Libertardians havn't read the charter documents or the books. They are as ignorant as a rich elitist telling you the US isn't a corporation for his own for-profit grifting.

Captain Slappy states:

"Did you ever ponder this is why the "Constitution" hasn't applied, except when the corporation says so...since the beginning? After all, the "Annapolis Committee & Societal Corporation" did say, a "Constitution OF the Federal" and NOT a "Constitution FOR"..."

"If the "Constitution" really DID apply...couldn't you just stand on a street corner, yelling craftily copied quotes from it, and the magic ghosts of the "Founders" would appear to give you gold and silver? Wouldn't those mean old banks stop? Wouldn't "voting" get fixed?...."

"Or was it because it was never the law...FOR THEM. But always was...for Members...and their Employees."

"As far as "Sovereignty" goes, with the State and local franchises, they are about as "sovereign" as a CORPORATION that is fictional can be...until Daddy says different, and that was taken care of LONG before your great-great-great-great grandpappy was done crapping his nappies."

"It is very simple, if somebody else ("Federal" corporation) signs you up into their corporation (United States) because you lost the war...you cease to exist as "sovereign"."

"Doubly so...when you do so "internationally". After all, that State corporation SUBMITTED (applied) to be an INFERIOR member of a MORE POWERFUL corporation (by force, Comrade), who is a member of a more, more powerful corporation, and throughout both, infesting and permeating every pore, nook, cranny and crevice...."

"Private Societal Companies, with MANY hired hands. Independence indeed."

"That way...you can skip all that kooky "Constitution" stuff. They are FAR removed from it, and have been since 1861. And 1871. And 1915. And 1933. And....and...and..over and over."

"Just think, this is what they are puking up on a platter to your military."

But Zionist owned wikipedia tells us that Chisholm v. Georgia 1793 was overturned... it doesn't... or that the United States corporation doesn't exist, therefore...

New York LLC doesn't exist...

therefore...

...the Governor of NYLLC doesn't exist

....therefore the Electoral College doesn't exist...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpO3IIeXUAMKc_J?format=png&name=small

^ ^ ^ US is a corporation.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpOzNtnXEAEG0j6?format=png&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1JM1L_XoAEKOya?format=png&name=small

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

and Libertardians havn't read the charter documents or the books. They are as ignorant as a rich elitist telling you the US isn't a corporation for his own for-profit grifting.

Government ≠ Corporation.

Your opinion on what a definition should be doesn't actually change the definition of it.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Wrong, Congress incorporated. Literally every founder and all the charter documemts and every corporate lawyer knows that the US is a corporation and congress are i corporated members hence good old Ron Paul congressmen getting traded on the D and B database.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If the government is a corporation, then don't you think its existence would prove its legality? The laws surrounding it are controlled by itself, so its impossible (except under extreme circumstances, like "Nixon" circumstances") to charge itself with a crime.

This concept isn't USA exclusive, either: The Queen of England could walk down the street stabbing people and can't be charged with a crime. Because the legal authority to charge her would be herself, which she might not want to do if she's gone crazy.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I literally proved the government is INCORPORATED UNDER US CORP. So, do you want me to provide you with more photos of charter documents, something you cannot even find on google searches for obvious reasons. I can provide more info if need be.

All corporations are imaginary, yes, they are fictional PERSONS but they exist in legalese and are used in the lawyerly land of the jungle or game theory.

The laws are in company rules. That is why citizenship is voluntary... that is why paying taxes is voluntary... but good luck renoucning every tactic contract you might have made with US corp., because they'll always get you with the soverign citizen oxymoron because of these contracts. It's a very hard life without such privilages and the Fire Department might not put out the fire at your house because you are not contracting with US corp. Actually, I remember reading an article about this, I'll try to find it.

The laws surrounding it are controlled by itself, so its impossible (except under extreme circumstances, like "Nixon" circumstances") to charge itself with a crime.

It should be but leave it up to grifters, the money power and greedy scumbags to destroy something that could have worked far better than it does today.

This concept isn't USA exclusive, either: The Queen of England could walk down the street stabbing people and can't be charged with a crime.

Bolshevik Russia was a corporation. Russia company, a corporation. Israel, is a limited liability corporation...

Because the legal authority to charge her would be herself, which she might not want to do if she's gone crazy.

I didn't think fiction imaginary corporations could talk? It's the members therein that mae the corporation run, either for their own for-profit endeavors or for the common good.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I also literally showed you proof US is a corporation, a quasi-public-private corporation in the photos above (I'm down to source 50 more examples) as it was chartered, as are all republics but this one was founded by a fight between two masonic corporation, in the end the revolutionists won and then screwed over the farmers and laymen.

The US is indeed a corporation Chisholm vs. Georgia 1793.

[–]crackerjack 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

the united states of american was purchased from a band of drunken indians in exchange for a bag of beads and some whiskey and two hand pistols.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

And the ignoramus shill with a day old account arrives.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's pretty damned stupid.

[–]crackerjack 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

hey, just four yor informations, oh holy one, i have been an ignoreemus since the day that i was born... it aint gots nothing to do with no stupid forum.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

US corp = corporation... government is incorporated, same with every state and city in the US.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

By that same logic you're calling business like Blackwater governments.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Wrong. Blackwater is a private for-profit corporation. The US was chartered by ASSOCIATION INC. as a self-funding quasi-public/private corporation. Again, it's reach is completely voluntary. But leave it up to rich scumbags to scream about taxes that are suppose to benefit those who voluntarily contracted with US corp for welfare and other benefits, whilst they retain US corp privilages but steal from those who contracted willingly.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

is a private for-profit corporation.

and... the usa isn't

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It is a corporation.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Oh it is a corporation. Most importantly, why does this matter? Well in fact a corporation is a dictatorial entity where things like free speech are suspended. When you agree to work for a corporation, you agree to many terms. As far as the US corporation is concerned, these terms are: YOU ARE ITS PROPERTY TO DO WITH AS IT PLEASES.

Now, would it be possible to de-corporatize the citizenry? Of course. But a requirement for this is that the citizenry would wish to do so, and demand it be done on a large scale.

Do we begin to see the problem yet?

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't see it. Are you saying that everyone owns one share of said corporation?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No. Every citizen IS one share of said corporation, owned by some "special people".

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If each citizen is a share, then they own it. How does someone else own it/them?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No. If each citizen is a share, then the citizens ARE OWNED by the owners of the corporations. You own a corp by owning its shares. It's slavery under another name, really.

And if you think it isn't, think again: all that US corporate debt, to the tune of 170 trillion, is using THE CITIZENS as the collateral. The US corporation "government" borrows trillions from the Fed, which is owned by a gang of banksters, and YOU are the collateral.