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[–]Zapped 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

I must be reading something different because that's not how I interpret it.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

Explain; and person = corporation in legalese.

[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

u/AnarchySpeach summed it up pretty well. I do not agree with you that the U.S. is a corporation.

[–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The US is 100% a corporation and anyone who denies this by doing a lazy google search has no idea what they are talking about.


Here here... indeed... the United States a corporation, evidence:

http://books.google.com/books?id=hQMoAAAAYAAJ

(corporation codes and Act of 1871)

P. 86 Municipal Corporations Enactment and Contents.

...No particular form of words is necessary to the creation of a municipal corporation, although a particular form of words is generally used for this purpose, the question whether a particular statute creates a municipal cor poration is one of legislative intent.

Fictio Legis Neminem Laedit

A corporation is a collection of NATURAL PERSONS, joined together by they voluntary action or by legal compulsion, by or under the authority of an act of the legislature, consisting either of a special charter or of a general permissive statute, to accomplish some purpose, pecuniary, ideal, or GOVERNMENTAL, authorized by the...

It will thus be seen that a corporation is not only a LEGAL ENTITY or ARTIFICIAL PERSON separate and distinct from the NATURAL PERSONS (fascism 4 da lulz) who compose it, but it is also a collection of INDIVIDUALS, and this conception of it is recognized by the courts whenever the FICTION of the LEGAL ENTITY is urged to a purpose NOT WITHIN ITS REASON.

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The U.S. Corporation is NOT a democracy. It is literally "res publicae"...a charter corporati

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"On republic". The United States corporation is made up of sub-franchise State corporations, incorporated at the time of charter post 1783.

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constitutional republic" (as neither America Inc. nor U.S. Corp. are "democracies") literally means in latin...

"Charter Corporations" (res publicae, i.e., "The People", e.g., fictional "persons" i.e., Thomas Hobbes "Leviathan")...

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

/u/AnarchySpeech and Libertardians havn't read the charter documents or the books. They are as ignorant as a rich elitist telling you the US isn't a corporation for his own for-profit grifting.

Captain Slappy states:

"Did you ever ponder this is why the "Constitution" hasn't applied, except when the corporation says so...since the beginning? After all, the "Annapolis Committee & Societal Corporation" did say, a "Constitution OF the Federal" and NOT a "Constitution FOR"..."

"If the "Constitution" really DID apply...couldn't you just stand on a street corner, yelling craftily copied quotes from it, and the magic ghosts of the "Founders" would appear to give you gold and silver? Wouldn't those mean old banks stop? Wouldn't "voting" get fixed?...."

"Or was it because it was never the law...FOR THEM. But always was...for Members...and their Employees."

"As far as "Sovereignty" goes, with the State and local franchises, they are about as "sovereign" as a CORPORATION that is fictional can be...until Daddy says different, and that was taken care of LONG before your great-great-great-great grandpappy was done crapping his nappies."

"It is very simple, if somebody else ("Federal" corporation) signs you up into their corporation (United States) because you lost the war...you cease to exist as "sovereign"."

"Doubly so...when you do so "internationally". After all, that State corporation SUBMITTED (applied) to be an INFERIOR member of a MORE POWERFUL corporation (by force, Comrade), who is a member of a more, more powerful corporation, and throughout both, infesting and permeating every pore, nook, cranny and crevice...."

"Private Societal Companies, with MANY hired hands. Independence indeed."

"That way...you can skip all that kooky "Constitution" stuff. They are FAR removed from it, and have been since 1861. And 1871. And 1915. And 1933. And....and...and..over and over."

"Just think, this is what they are puking up on a platter to your military."

But Zionist owned wikipedia tells us that Chisholm v. Georgia 1793 was overturned... it doesn't... or that the United States corporation doesn't exist, therefore...

New York LLC doesn't exist...

therefore...

...the Governor of NYLLC doesn't exist

....therefore the Electoral College doesn't exist...

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^ ^ ^ US is a corporation.

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[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

and Libertardians havn't read the charter documents or the books. They are as ignorant as a rich elitist telling you the US isn't a corporation for his own for-profit grifting.

Government ≠ Corporation.

Your opinion on what a definition should be doesn't actually change the definition of it.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Wrong, Congress incorporated. Literally every founder and all the charter documemts and every corporate lawyer knows that the US is a corporation and congress are i corporated members hence good old Ron Paul congressmen getting traded on the D and B database.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If the government is a corporation, then don't you think its existence would prove its legality? The laws surrounding it are controlled by itself, so its impossible (except under extreme circumstances, like "Nixon" circumstances") to charge itself with a crime.

This concept isn't USA exclusive, either: The Queen of England could walk down the street stabbing people and can't be charged with a crime. Because the legal authority to charge her would be herself, which she might not want to do if she's gone crazy.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I literally proved the government is INCORPORATED UNDER US CORP. So, do you want me to provide you with more photos of charter documents, something you cannot even find on google searches for obvious reasons. I can provide more info if need be.

All corporations are imaginary, yes, they are fictional PERSONS but they exist in legalese and are used in the lawyerly land of the jungle or game theory.

The laws are in company rules. That is why citizenship is voluntary... that is why paying taxes is voluntary... but good luck renoucning every tactic contract you might have made with US corp., because they'll always get you with the soverign citizen oxymoron because of these contracts. It's a very hard life without such privilages and the Fire Department might not put out the fire at your house because you are not contracting with US corp. Actually, I remember reading an article about this, I'll try to find it.

The laws surrounding it are controlled by itself, so its impossible (except under extreme circumstances, like "Nixon" circumstances") to charge itself with a crime.

It should be but leave it up to grifters, the money power and greedy scumbags to destroy something that could have worked far better than it does today.

This concept isn't USA exclusive, either: The Queen of England could walk down the street stabbing people and can't be charged with a crime.

Bolshevik Russia was a corporation. Russia company, a corporation. Israel, is a limited liability corporation...

Because the legal authority to charge her would be herself, which she might not want to do if she's gone crazy.

I didn't think fiction imaginary corporations could talk? It's the members therein that mae the corporation run, either for their own for-profit endeavors or for the common good.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I also literally showed you proof US is a corporation, a quasi-public-private corporation in the photos above (I'm down to source 50 more examples) as it was chartered, as are all republics but this one was founded by a fight between two masonic corporation, in the end the revolutionists won and then screwed over the farmers and laymen.

The US is indeed a corporation Chisholm vs. Georgia 1793.

[–]crackerjack 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

the united states of american was purchased from a band of drunken indians in exchange for a bag of beads and some whiskey and two hand pistols.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

And the ignoramus shill with a day old account arrives.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's pretty damned stupid.

[–]crackerjack 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

hey, just four yor informations, oh holy one, i have been an ignoreemus since the day that i was born... it aint gots nothing to do with no stupid forum.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

US corp = corporation... government is incorporated, same with every state and city in the US.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

By that same logic you're calling business like Blackwater governments.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Wrong. Blackwater is a private for-profit corporation. The US was chartered by ASSOCIATION INC. as a self-funding quasi-public/private corporation. Again, it's reach is completely voluntary. But leave it up to rich scumbags to scream about taxes that are suppose to benefit those who voluntarily contracted with US corp for welfare and other benefits, whilst they retain US corp privilages but steal from those who contracted willingly.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

is a private for-profit corporation.

and... the usa isn't

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It is a corporation.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Oh it is a corporation. Most importantly, why does this matter? Well in fact a corporation is a dictatorial entity where things like free speech are suspended. When you agree to work for a corporation, you agree to many terms. As far as the US corporation is concerned, these terms are: YOU ARE ITS PROPERTY TO DO WITH AS IT PLEASES.

Now, would it be possible to de-corporatize the citizenry? Of course. But a requirement for this is that the citizenry would wish to do so, and demand it be done on a large scale.

Do we begin to see the problem yet?

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't see it. Are you saying that everyone owns one share of said corporation?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No. Every citizen IS one share of said corporation, owned by some "special people".

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If each citizen is a share, then they own it. How does someone else own it/them?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No. If each citizen is a share, then the citizens ARE OWNED by the owners of the corporations. You own a corp by owning its shares. It's slavery under another name, really.

And if you think it isn't, think again: all that US corporate debt, to the tune of 170 trillion, is using THE CITIZENS as the collateral. The US corporation "government" borrows trillions from the Fed, which is owned by a gang of banksters, and YOU are the collateral.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

Article 1 of what.

[–]Jesus[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

Title of nobility clause in constitution not that anybody reads the constitution anymore.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

I live in Canada. The US constitution isn't really required reading here. Just imagine, there are people FROM OUTSIDE THE USA on the Internet. What's the world coming to.

[–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Hah, yeah. I could of sworn you said in the past that you lived in the states but now that I think about it, that was sendnastystuff.

I wonder what canada has to say about dual-loyalty to foreign states when it was first incorporated hundreds of years ago.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Frankly, I couldn't say. I don't know too many Canadians. We, the Québécois, tend to stick to ourselves mostly.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

To be fair, he did say "in the US" in the very first sentence.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I read it and - GASP - understood it. I simply inquired to u/Jesus as to WHICH DOCUMENT he was talking about. There are a lot of documents in the USA. Did you know that? Can you understand that?

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I understand Horrux. No Biggie.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I know you do. It's the demented child tranny on a mission to make me look bad who doesn't.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think he moderates good but he didn't need to say anything like that. Do you two have beef?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I called him childish a few times. Hence this whole shitshow.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Was somebody talking to you?

Hm, nope.

Go delete some spam instead of showing up where you aren't wanted.

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    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    No one can block you.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Oh... yeah... I'm an idiot — but I ain't sure if that puts me on the same level as not reading the very first sentence of a post before complaining, and then telling someone they aren't allowed to comment anymore just because they called you out for it.

    Honestly, people should be able to block me. Maybe not Magnora, but I don't see why I should be exempt. Everyone here hates me, so it'd be a huge relief.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I read it. The FRAME OF REFERENCE was not provided. As a foreigner, just imagine, I don't have the same frame of reference that somebody from the USA might have. This being outside of your abilities to understand, just spells way more than "I'm an idiot."

    [–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Admit it, you were drunk off maple syrup. ;)

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    This post is about the US.

    Frig off

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yes, and?

    What's your problem?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Minnesota sidecar & 3rd

    [–]AnarchySpeach 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    Okay. Fuck it. Explain it to me.

    All politicians accept monetary gifts under the table. The simple trick that they've been using for decades to have somebody else accept the money for them and then have that person give it.

    As for "Office" not sure what you mean. Somebody claiming to be Jewish or Catholic isn't "legally" a member of another office.

    "Title" would be interesting way to remove somebody from politics. One country gives them a title. Trick them into accepting it on camera. Problem is, that is not as easy as it sounds, as it requires both parties involved to publicly acknowledged such a title, because if either side simply says, "I misunderstood their statement, I thought they were just being polite." and then good luck proving intent in court.

    but I sadly get the feeling that none of the above is what you were talking about when you made this post...

    [–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    They all should be expelled. Simple. If they recieve monetaty gifts they do not represent you, period. Zionism, however, is a foreign corporation. If politicians are hanging out and getting funds from foreign corporations, such as Mossad, IDF, Unit8200 then they should be expelled period.

    [–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    however, is a foreign corporation.

    A group of separate individuals who agree on something isn't a corporation.

    [–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Zionism is indeed a sub-franchise corporation founded by 900 corporations at the Basel Zionist congresses. It is also foreign to the US.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Just imagine you are working AT Merck (a corporation just like the US corporation). But Pfizer (another corporation, just like Israel is) sends you $20,000 monthly. So you work at Merck and are paid by both Merck and Pfizer. Why does Pfizer pay you? Obviously you are doing something for THEM while working for ANOTHER ORGANIZATION. If you are found out, what would happen? (Hint: it would involve getting fired and most likely convicted of industrial espionage.)

    Transpose this into government: you hold an office in the US corporation and are paid big bucks by the Israel corporation. But that's totally fine and healthy right?

    I can't make it simpler than that.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Pretty simple.

    [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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      [–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Your interpretation.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Just go ahead and supply any that you have. It would help generate more discussion.

      [–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

      Bots don't want you to know the US is corporation.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

      Make more posts concerning this. Really take the time to make them friendly to the eyes. Source the fuck out of it.

      Jesus, you interest me greatly, but you don't always follow through with presentation. This information you are trying to spread is true, but you really need to go slow and walk people through it in a more concerted way. Have someone else read/edit it for you. Do a series of posts.

      This is important legal stuff and I've seen it used successfully in court. Also, there are lots of crypto-jews Trojan-horsing sovereign citizen movements all the time. There is something to this, and since there is something to this, you should be able to carefully source it, and slowly convince others.

      Please. Heed my words. I'd be interested in reading more on this subject. Just be more focused with your words.

      [–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Sure. Will do. Thanks for the feedback.

      Also, there are lots of crypto-jews Trojan-horsing sovereign citizen movements all the time.

      Soverign citizen is an oxymoron. If you voluntary sign up for US corp privilages, such as welfare, which is inscribed in the constitution, then you are not sovereign. Renouncing such privileges, even tacit ones, then the US Corp won't bother you but good luck figuring out your tacit contracts.

      I'm more angered at the rich elitists who complain about taxes but steal welfare of the middle class and poor but then retain government privileges.

      But, yes, will do. I'll organize and expalin better.

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I used the sov-cit term to group in all those movements. It's like saying "anti-Semitic" it almost doesn't mean anything by those who say it and mean it.

      Thank you, Jesus. I am interested in reading more, and to hopefully discover new sources for this vital information. Don't let people detract you from your path!

      [–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      That term was likely invented by Zionists. A Sov-cit is an oxymoron. You cannot be a soverign whilst also being a citizen. Laughably, many Sov-Cits think they are sovereign whilst they retain US corp privilages. That's how they get them with tax fraud.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      Oh he's sourced it alright. Where Jesus falls short is indeed presentation and also spelling the practical, real-world implications of what he states, in utterly basic laymen's terms.

      I intervene with my own messages and do just that sometimes. See above.

      [–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Earendil is saying not to insult the people their trying to persuade. I, for one, give less credibility to someone who calls me an idiot for disagreeing with or even questioning their opinions.

      https://www.hubspot.com/sales/how-to-win-friends-and-influence-people-summary

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      What does that post have to do with mine? Did I proffer insults somehow?

      [–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      No. Just backing you up and clarifying what I think Earendil said.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      OK just wasn't sure! ;-)