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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Okay. Lets start with the common ground. It's not impossible that COVID escaped from a lab. But we have no evidence of that, barring Xi's recalcitrance when dealing with the WHO investigation. And that is arose as viruses do, is 100% plausible.

That's done.

Fauci does not have connections to a Lab in Wuhan.

NIH did provide funding to a New York based non profit called EcoHealth Alliance that conducted research on bat coronaviruses, and they had a partnership with a virology lab in Wuhan. (That research did not include making new viruses.)

The townhall and national review articles are not true. And not helpful.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's not impossible that COVID escaped from a lab. But we have no evidence of that,

It makes me hopeful that you are willing to admit this much. But I think there is no evidence whatsoever that the virus came from the wet market directly and the locale also includes a bio-safety level 2 protocol lab across the street making it easily a potential source of SARS Cov 2, given the airborne nature of the virus. I wonder if wuhan scientists ever stop in to the market across the street from their work before they go home?

Upon investigation, no SARS Cov 2-like virus was found in any animal likely to be sold in the Huanan wet market. There are SARS CoV 2 -like viruses in the laboratory across the street though. They published studies on how they created them which anyone can read.

It is not plausible that this virus arose naturally. There was no intermediate host population found with a SARS Cov 2 like virus, as we found with SARS (civets) and MERS (camels). The virus would have to be relatively widespread in this population and would have had to infect it for months or years. The virus cannot jump from bats to humans. It needs a more human-like host to infect first, which it would use as an evolutionary “stepping stone” before infecting humans. Most coronaviruses seem to get to humans this way, originating in bats and making their way through other species, one mutation at a time. A bat to human zoonotic leap is not thought to be possible.

As soon as the virus was isolated from humans the researchers noted its “high affinity for human ACE2 receptor”. That does not happen naturally with a zoonotic transfer to a new host. Viruses are inefficient at infecting new hosts initially. They must mutate many more times to fully adapt to a host. This will take weeks or months at least.

You do not see a brand new natural virus, new to human populations, that is perfectly adapted to exploit a human cell receptor.

This virus was bred to infect human cells in humanize mice over millions of generations.

Fauci does have connection to Wuhan lab. His NIAID grants are cited as funding for at least two Wuhan Institute of Virology studies which created multiple SARS like hybrids that infected Human ACE2 receptor. Peter Daszak (Eco Health Alliance) also sourced is a co-author of one of these studies, and was on the WHO panel to investigate Wuhan.

The WHO investigator was co-author and funder of the Wuhan studies on coronavirus. Hello?

Its going to come out. Its the only plausible explanation, other than another state actor producing this virus and releasing it in Wuhan to frame the Chinese. But Im an Occams razor kind of person. Its not really a China virus. Multiple Americans worked on these viruses, particularly the guys at USC Chapel Hill. There is no way it is natural.

The virology community gets $$$$$ from government and they love this kind of work. They dont want to lose (defense) dollars. Im telling you what’s up.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1006698

NIAID, NIH, USAID funding listed.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

and the locale also includes a bio-safety level 2 protocol lab across the street making it easily a potential source of SARS Cov 2, given the airborne nature of the virus

I can't find that lab across the street from the wet market. Which street?

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Huanan Market is at the intersection of Fazhan and Xinhua rds.

The Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention is the BSL-2 lab where they kept a lot of laboratory animals, including the bats from Hunan province from which Shi Zheng Li derives the wild coronaviruses that she been experimenting with for 20 years. It is on an access road between Fazhan and Machang roads, across the street from a hospital. It wont show up on a google map search any more. There is a map of the location in the link below.

The WIV has 2 locations, one is about 5 miles away and one is another 20 miles away I believe. I think the one further away is a new facility. I think the first one is a BSL 2 and the second is a BSL 4 but don’t quote me.

This guy Batao Xiou actually worked as a molecular biologist at the HCDCP BSL-2 lab or the hospital across the street. Im not sure.

https://img-prod.tgcom24.mediaset.it/images/2020/02/16/114720192-5eb8307f-017c-4075-a697-348628da0204.pdf