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[–]fred_red_beans 18 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 6 fun -  (52 children)

The choice is mine, and I will do neither.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (51 children)

You choose mate.

If you kill a few american's that the patriotic thing to do!

And at least the families of the deceased have the comfort of knowing you're slightly less likely to pass on any sociopath genes you have: Erectile Dysfunction Risk 6 Times Higher in Men With COVID.

[–]bananafridge 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

I love you cited that obvious bit of propaganda - 'may cause'. Catching Covid-19 'may cause' your dick to become physically larger. Climate change 'may cause' brighter summers, better agricultural conditions at polar latitudes and a happier populous. Communism 'may cause' sight loss

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

COVID may cause you to have X-ray vision or may cause your head to explode.

The choice is yours.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Oh for fuck's sake.

Do we have to go through the meaning of "may cause" in this context?

It means "will cause, in some cases."

Not "we don't know if it's related."

Jesus please us.

[–]AnarchySpeach 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm guessing this is your same response you give to the people worried about blood clots two of the vaccines gave lol

kinda hard to point to a few rare cases as a reason to get it when people are using the same fear mongering logic to justify doing the opposite

[–]bananafridge 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The difference between correlation and causality is apparently difficult for some people to understand. So yes, maybe we ought to go through it, for your benefit.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you suggesting that there's some confounding factor that causes both CoVID and erectile dysfunction?

Or are you suggesting that erectile dysfunction causes CoVID?

Because neither of those have the biological plausibility of CoVID causing erectile dysfunction.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Fauci killed 3 million people world wide when he funded genetic experiments on coronavirus in a Wuhan laboratory that is coincidentally across the street from the ‘wet market’ where the Covid outbreak supposedly originated.

Still haven’t found the intermediate host that infected humans with SARS Cov 2. Because it lives in a lab funded by Anthony Fauci.

Obama banned NIH funding for gain of function research. Why did Fauci go to such trouble to get around the ban with subgrants and foreign labs?

Trusted experts made this virus.

[–]slushpilot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"funded by Anthony Fauci" is hyperbolic, but the actual facts should still be discussed soberly: The NIH and NIAID funded the research through third-party contractors like EcoHealth Alliance, who worked with labs in China and published scientific papers with them.

It should not be taboo for our news media to point out these facts. I suspect everybody's hands are a little bit dirty.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is “Lenin killed millions” hyperbolic? He implemented policies that killed millions.

Fauci is head of the NIAID for like 20 years and this shit not only crossed his desk, he actively sought ways around the GOF ban. You are trying to make it seem impersonal as if uncontrollable government agencies were just acting on their own accord. Fauci and the WHO’s Peter Daszak and Ralph Baric actively pushed for this research. It is a small community with a lot of money and a limited number of actors. They perpetrated this as much as any ‘war criminal’ absolutely.

The wuhan institute —and probably other gov labs we dont know about —have been doing this sort of dangerous research for decades and it doesn’t seem to have any value added towards developing medical interventions. Wuhan is the capital of coronavirus research. What insights did the NIH gain by funding these experiments, what drugs do we know of now as a result? What knowlege have we increased by virtue of these experiments being performed? None.

We have gained no practical medical knowlege about coronavirus by funding a decade of Wuhan experiments.

It is as if the acquisition of practical medical knowlege had nothing to do with this research. So then one must ask, why was it done?

I think it is much worse than you are thinking it is. I think this guy has not stayed in power in key govenment health agencies for so long for no reason. I dont know if this release was intentional but I know what these bugs were created for.

You do know that Peter Daszak —head of Eco-Health— was working with Shi Zheng li on coronaviruses as early as 20 years ago (after SARS 1), is a co-author of one of the wuhan joint coronavirus studies likely to have created the virus, and is literally on the WHO panel to investigate the origin of SARS Cov 2?

The guy helped create covid and he has been hired to investigate its origins. These aren’t hapless bureacrats. These are the biggest liars on the planet.

Could you create a virus that killed 3 million people and then sit on a panel meant to investigate where it came from? They are psychos. Its not hyperbole. I am soberly discussing the fact that these events have been orchestrated by psychos.

What does a psycho look like when he has a 140 IQ? He doesn’t perpetrate drivebys in the hood. He does this sort of shit, and he gets away with it. You can’t conceive that our country is being run by literal psychos so you self soothe by saying “everybody’s hands are a little dirty”. Its just far worse than you think unfortunately.

[–]RightousBob 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

"Wah wah reeeeeeeeee! You are putting others at risk wah wah reeeeeeeee!"

Risk of what, having a cold and a 99.97% chance of survival followed by NATURAL immunity that surpasses the experimental gene altering jab?

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

350,000 dead Americans isn't a cold.

If you think a jab can alter your genes, you should seize the opportunity.

[–]RightousBob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

That number of people, and more, die every year from the flu. Except this year! As those deaths were recategorized to help push the Cov2 narrative. Magically making to flu disappear. People will die regardless because that's how life works, and nothing can be done about it. The problem comes when governments sacrifice the lives of the living for the sake of the dead. That's backwards and wrong. But then again the whole situation is wrong, evil and criminal. The virus was funded by NIH and crafted in a CCP virology lab and then either released intentionally or "accidentally" as a pretext for a "Global Reset." Millions of people's lives (most of whom don't fall into the vulnerable category and who's survival rate IS 99.97%) were ruined due the government's response. The deaths (if they are ever accurately counted and not censored) from poverty, hunger, mental illness, murder, drug addiction, abuse and alcoholism will greatly overshadow that number of "Cov2" deaths in no time. But you won't hear about that because it doesn't illicit the desired reaction from the masses. That truthful narrative will illicit rage and anger in the populace. "Cov2" has been manipulated to illicit FEAR! It's a Hegelian dialectic as old as time Problem-Reaction-Solution. Those who fall for it deserve that experimental jab and all that comes with it.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Nope. Flu gets about 20,000 in the USA each year. Worst year ever was a little over 60,000.

Why do you think 500,000 more people died in 2000 than in 1999 in the USA?

The virus was funded by NIH and crafted in a CCP virology lab and then either released intentionally or "accidentally" as a pretext for a "Global Reset."

You do know that that's batshit crazy, don't you?

[–]RightousBob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Ha batshit, that's a good one. You should take that act on the road cause you're a laughing stock.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biosafety-expert-explains-why-faucis-nih-gain-of-function-testimony-was-demonstrably-false/

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/05/12/people-bring-the-receipts-after-fauci-attempts-to-dodge-connections-to-wuhan-lab-n2589274

https://nypost.com/2021/05/09/theory-that-covid-escaped-from-a-lab-may-not-be-far-fetched/

It's black and white clear as day where the money came from and what it was used for. But then again I'm not surprised that a mainstream lemming like yourself missed all of that, it requires reading and thought, two things you are incapable of. "CNN said that's not true reeeeeeeeeeee, you're crazy! Anything that goes against my brainwashed narrative is crazy!"

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Okay. Lets start with the common ground. It's not impossible that COVID escaped from a lab. But we have no evidence of that, barring Xi's recalcitrance when dealing with the WHO investigation. And that is arose as viruses do, is 100% plausible.

That's done.

Fauci does not have connections to a Lab in Wuhan.

NIH did provide funding to a New York based non profit called EcoHealth Alliance that conducted research on bat coronaviruses, and they had a partnership with a virology lab in Wuhan. (That research did not include making new viruses.)

The townhall and national review articles are not true. And not helpful.

[–]RightousBob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

What's it like being a bot?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How the hell would I know?

I imagine it would make choosing which picture contains traffic lights difficult.

What's it like being so steeped in conspiracy theories that you think the NIH funded the "crafting" of CoVID-19?

How do you feel about lizard overlords, chem-trails and homeopathy?

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's not impossible that COVID escaped from a lab. But we have no evidence of that,

It makes me hopeful that you are willing to admit this much. But I think there is no evidence whatsoever that the virus came from the wet market directly and the locale also includes a bio-safety level 2 protocol lab across the street making it easily a potential source of SARS Cov 2, given the airborne nature of the virus. I wonder if wuhan scientists ever stop in to the market across the street from their work before they go home?

Upon investigation, no SARS Cov 2-like virus was found in any animal likely to be sold in the Huanan wet market. There are SARS CoV 2 -like viruses in the laboratory across the street though. They published studies on how they created them which anyone can read.

It is not plausible that this virus arose naturally. There was no intermediate host population found with a SARS Cov 2 like virus, as we found with SARS (civets) and MERS (camels). The virus would have to be relatively widespread in this population and would have had to infect it for months or years. The virus cannot jump from bats to humans. It needs a more human-like host to infect first, which it would use as an evolutionary “stepping stone” before infecting humans. Most coronaviruses seem to get to humans this way, originating in bats and making their way through other species, one mutation at a time. A bat to human zoonotic leap is not thought to be possible.

As soon as the virus was isolated from humans the researchers noted its “high affinity for human ACE2 receptor”. That does not happen naturally with a zoonotic transfer to a new host. Viruses are inefficient at infecting new hosts initially. They must mutate many more times to fully adapt to a host. This will take weeks or months at least.

You do not see a brand new natural virus, new to human populations, that is perfectly adapted to exploit a human cell receptor.

This virus was bred to infect human cells in humanize mice over millions of generations.

Fauci does have connection to Wuhan lab. His NIAID grants are cited as funding for at least two Wuhan Institute of Virology studies which created multiple SARS like hybrids that infected Human ACE2 receptor. Peter Daszak (Eco Health Alliance) also sourced is a co-author of one of these studies, and was on the WHO panel to investigate Wuhan.

The WHO investigator was co-author and funder of the Wuhan studies on coronavirus. Hello?

Its going to come out. Its the only plausible explanation, other than another state actor producing this virus and releasing it in Wuhan to frame the Chinese. But Im an Occams razor kind of person. Its not really a China virus. Multiple Americans worked on these viruses, particularly the guys at USC Chapel Hill. There is no way it is natural.

The virology community gets $$$$$ from government and they love this kind of work. They dont want to lose (defense) dollars. Im telling you what’s up.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1006698

NIAID, NIH, USAID funding listed.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

and the locale also includes a bio-safety level 2 protocol lab across the street making it easily a potential source of SARS Cov 2, given the airborne nature of the virus

I can't find that lab across the street from the wet market. Which street?

[–]RightousBob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Here is the Global Reset plan in black and white. Read it. Use a dictionary for all those big words you don't understand.

https://archive.org/details/pdfy-tNG7MjZUicS-wiJb/page/n17/mode/2up

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To avoid the consequences flowing from the pandemic part of the lockstep scenario, get yourself vaccinated against the pandemic.

The NIH didn't fund the CoViD virus.

There are a lot of humans on the planet now. As a consequence of that we're going to get more versions of viruses appearing naturally. Which increases the chance of some of them being nasty. That's the most likely source of the virus.

I worry a little bit that China was hostile to the WHO investigation as to the origins of the virus, and it's not impossible that this is because they've got something to hide. But more likely Xi is just being a dick in order to show that they can't be pushed around: Or possibly they're comfortable with the perception that they have sophisticated biological weapons research going on.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I absolutely agree with you. About the dead people anyway.

I think the lockdown measures were inappropriate and an excuse to crack down on civil liberties, but Im tired of people minimizing the deaths of so many elderly. Survival rate is not 99.9999% for people over 65, its like 90 or 95% which sucks.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

and an excuse to crack down on civil liberties

This isn't the patriot act. When the disease is gone, you're not going to need to lock down or wear a mask any more.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is exactly the patriot act. This is the patriot act for liberals. You remember how conservatives were so gung ho for the patriot act because they thought it was only going to be used to crack down on a bunch of muslim terrorists? But now every white guy that says nigger can’t fly on a commercial airplane now.

This is exactly the patriot act. Vaccine passports, what are you shitting me?

Don’t worry only ten thousand young people have to die. Adverse reactions totally rare. Magnets are sticking to people’s arms, no one knows why.

If this is no biggy why haven’t we done this with AIDS? How about everyone have an AIDS passport. It will save lives if everyone can be verified as having HIV or not. How gays and blacks would still be alive? How much public healthcare dollars could we save by cutting down on AIDS cases? It wont be forever. Just until we end AIDS.

That would never happen because liberals would never allow a black or gay person who is spreading a lethal disease to have a sad feely. Double standard.

[–]ktmktmktm 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

What are you on about?

[–]zyxzevn 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Men with covid are over 80.

[–]dramasexual 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

If you kill a few american's that the patriotic thing to do!

This but unironically. Suck my nuts you actual bootlicker.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This^

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Cry about it fag

[–]FuckMasks 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Found the brainwashed propaganda spewer!

I hope you're paid to spray all the bullshit you have over this comments section and not actually that pitifully moronic....

[–]RightousBob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Another sock puppet account, just days old and all worked up to fight for the mainstream narrative. Good job calling bullshit on thia shill.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where would you say that comes in the pyramid of debate?

[–]NodeIndependent 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

You're in the covid cult? Did you get free fries and a burger with that?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

CoVID cult?

People who don't intend to go around spreading CoVID?

Wrong way round, mate.

[–]NodeIndependent 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

People who don't intend to go around spreading CoVID?

No, people who believe in the covid hoax. It's like a new breatharianism.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Is that how communists are trying to increase the impact on the us economy?

By spreading that it's all a hoax?

What do to think is killing the people?

[–]NodeIndependent 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

What do to think is killing the people?

You're saying the ONLY thing you've read about this for the past year is Official State Propaganda? Do you also happen to use reddit, and watch one of the late night comedians on television?

Okay then, people in positions of power in the government and corporations have your individual best interests in mind, and would never choose money and power over your health or reproductive abilities. Go ahead and get one of those substances injected into your body.

https://files.catbox.moe/ybp658.mp4

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Okay, you've linked to a video of a guy who, in Belgium promoted the H1N1 vaccine.

He's not talking about money or power. Which makes sense. Vaccines is a poor vehicle for money making as they're pretty cheap and the margins are low. They're probably the most cost-effective medical intervention that humanity has.

Go ahead and get one of those substances injected into your body.

Of course. As soon as I'm able.

What do you think is the cause of the 500,000 extra deaths in the US in 2020 than in 2019?

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

He's not talking about money or power. Which makes sense. Vaccines is a poor vehicle for money making as they’re pretty cheap and the margins are low.

Nope

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/02/vaccines-are-profitable-so-what/385214/

Profit margins are high, and we are talking about several billion people * $40 to $60 dollars. Thats just for the first round. But since they haven’t solved the ADE problem young people may have no other choice but to get boosters indefinitely.

A course of ivermectin is safe enough to be sold OTC and would cost about 7 bucks. To cure covid. Because there’s no patent on it so billionaires dont get a cut. Ivermectin in early stage covid results in ~99% resolution ( prevention of progression to severe form.) But you can’t make money that way.

I can’t believe that video doesn’t bother you. You claim to care about people dying of covid but I guess you are okay with the contempt that that guy clearly has for the peasants.

What do you think is the cause of the 500,000 extra deaths in the US in 2020 than in 2019?

Covid. Were you the one I was discussing this number with before? I think so. I absolutely believe they have undercounted covid deaths by 100 or 150 thousand. I believe these are nursing home deaths.

This is the only place where it would be disincentivized to report covid deaths but the incentive to allow old people to die of it without reporting it would be very high. You probably know how the financing of nursing homes works to some extent. If they report these deaths as covid deaths they would be investigated and sued. They quarantined all these places from visitors so it was easy to keep prying eyes out.

That is where your missing covid cases are, mark my words.

Trust oligarchs though.

Interesting sidenote. Like covid, H1N1 was also developed and leaked from a lab that was developing it as a bioweapon. And it has a cure. No one has to die of flu if they get cheap antivirals early in their illness. They cured the flu ages ago. They cured the cold. Hydroxychloroquine, among others, cures all that shit.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Profit margins are high, and we are talking about several billion people * $40 to $60 dollars.

I accept this correction that profit margins have improved. But starting from a bar so low that pharma companies were getting out of vaccines altogether.

A study released last year estimated that fully immunizing babies resulted in $10 saved for every dollar spent, about $69 billion total.

Sounds like they could price them at about 5 times the price and they'd still be a good buy.

Covid. [...] I absolutely believe they have undercounted covid deaths by 100 or 150 thousand. I believe these are nursing home deaths.

Good. Sorry, I'm not always across who I'm talking to, and there seems to be a fair amount of "COVID is a hoax" going on in here.

Interesting sidenote. Like covid, H1N1 was also developed and leaked from a lab that was developing it as a bioweapon.

Okay, that lacks plausibility. The first known H1N1 outbreak was the 1918 flu pandemic. Who do you claim had bioweapon technology sufficient to engineer a virus as at the end of WWI?