Teacher Suspended After Saying George Floyd Would be Alive If He Complied

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[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Because when a crime is recorded on video, it doesn't take a corrupt jury to convict.

There was no crime recorded except George Floyd’s crime of passing counterfit money and resisting arrest.

No one would bat an eye if this was a white scum bag. Certainly not me. This country needs to stop making excuses for bad peopl because they are black.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There was no crime recorded except George Floyd’s crime of passing counterfit money and resisting arrest.

It turns out kneeling on someones neck (and compressing their chest against the pavement) for nine and a half minutes, and for 2 minutes after they lose consciousness is a crime. If they die, it tuns out the crimes are second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

Not surprising since murder is a crime.

No one would bat an eye if this was a white scum bag.

I would find the video hard to watch if it was anyone. But certainly against a background of white officers using force towards black people disproportionately, a lot of people were hoping that eventually one of them would be found guilty. It turns out having a video of the murder is what you need.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It turns out kneeling on someones neck (and compressing their chest against the pavement) for nine and a half minutes, and for 2 minutes after they lose consciousness is a crime. If they die, it tuns out the crimes are second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

No it isn’t not if the autopsy shows the cop did not use enough force to block the airway. The autopsy was pretty specific and you should read it. Its not a crime to pin someone on the ground who is resisting arrest. Its not the liability of the officer if a criminal ODs while he is applying reasonable force.

But certainly against a background of white officers using force towards black people disproportionately ,

This is a racist trope which is false and just shows that you can not be objective about this incident. It is not the fault of Derek Chauvin or other whites that blacks like GF, or Mak’iyah Bryant or Ahmad Arbery commit crimes at much higher rates than whites.

Blacks are always going to commit more crimes than whites and have more confrontations with cops, as long as murder, assault, and theft are against the law. You can’t fix that problem with anti-racism and ending white privilege. White privilege is the genetic predisposition not to be violent and not steal, relative to blacks. Its really not anyone’s fault. It has to do with 70,000 years of evolutionary divergence.

Look, I know that about 99% of the muggings in America are commited by blacks and that the majority of the victims are whites. But I don’t burn down other people’s buildings over that. I dont demand hate crime legislation be cited against a black man every time he beats up an old white lady.

Blacks have more confrontations with cops because blacks commit more crimes. You know that. I know that. Even black people know that.

Look at the ridiculous reactions they had to the cop that shot that girl about to stab another black person. I think some of the interlocutors in this debate have lost all reason.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is a racist trope which is false and just shows that you can not be objective about this incident.

Look at the chart. Yes, black cops use their guns slightly more than white cops as an area gets a higher proportion of blacks. That's likely to be related in the increased violent crime in those areas.

But white cops are (on average) just shooting at or around black people for some other reason.

It is not the fault of Derek Chauvin or other whites that blacks like GF, or Mak’iyah Bryant or Ahmad Arbery commit crimes at much higher rates than whites.

The problem stems form the greater force used against blacks than whites when the other circumstances are the same.

Look, I know that about 99% of the muggings in America are commited by blacks [...]

About 52.7% in 2019.

[...] and that the majority of the victims are whites.

I can only find 20 year old data on that. But certainly most robbery victims in the US are white. (As are most people). But white people who were mugged by a single offender were more likely to be mugged by another white person than a black person. (About 40% of robberies and about 54% of robberies with white victims had a white robber).

Blacks have more confrontations with cops because blacks commit more crimes. You know that. I know that. Even black people know that.

And yet they proportion of those that involve being killed is still higher.

I think some of the interlocutors in this debate have lost all reason.

Certainly they've lost perspective.