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[–]SpongySpiderLegs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

To all the liberty-loving, freedom loving pro-trumpers out there, this lady is a clear and present existential threat. She is a threat, not only to pro-trumpers, but she is also a threat to all people who don’t like to live the way she would approve of. If you like to make your own choices, if you like to live according to your own rules, if you simply believe that you are allowed to use your own mind to make your our decisions, this woman and all of her own “soldiers” are a threat to your very existence. If she finds you or her “soldiers” find you, then everything you have, family, friends, home, children, job, career, even your life and freedom are endangered.

If her “soldiers” approach you, defend yourself.

Protect yourself. Use whatever means you deem appropriate and stay safe. She is a threat to you.

[–]wristaction[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If individuals wait for their individual liberties to come under direct, mortal threat to take action to preserve themselves, all that will result is an infinite string of news stories about authorities apprehending, imprisoning, "breaking up", or shooting "lone wolf white supremacist domestic terrorists", each incident justifying further repression.

Only through solidarity will we survive. All of that "live according to your own rules", "I got mine" liberalist individualism crap is a literal trap set to ensure we refrain from meaningful collective political action and instead get picked off one-by-one.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. People need to start opposing the GovCorp, no matter the face. A cop tries to arrest you for not having up to date tags? Goon for GovCorp. BLM rioter comes for your family because of your color? Goon for the GovCorp.

[–]hfxB0oyAPirate Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

This is as chilling as if she were some racist right wing militia man.

[–]wristaction[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, right wing militia man is sitting in federal prison for saying something like this in a chat monitored by a team of federal agents and their CHSs.

This is Michigan state legislator Cynthia Johnson, who was not even obligated to apologize for or walk back these remarks, and her militia is the Michigan National Guard, many of whom are stationed in DC to prevent the wrong people from protesting their government.

[–]NodeIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

What? How would [some racist right wing militia man] possibly be chilling to a decent person?

[–]nolocus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

After this hit the internet one of her 'soldiers' did $10k worth of property damage to my land with heavy equipment and the law said tough shit we have no jurisdiction, defend yourself. How 'bout that?

[–]NodeIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Edited.

defend yourself

Yes.

[–]nolocus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Of course I am. But when you've exhausted all legal options and the FBI says not to defend yourself (only monitor the situation), your lawyer reminds you constantly of the pitfalls of deadly force, but the local Sherriff and County Zoning and Planning tells you you are on your own, what do you do? Yes, I'm licensed and bonded. There's no such thing as government protections for those that want to live peacefully.

[–]NodeIndependent 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You could become unpeaceful, in a very discreet way, or increase the distance between yourself and whatever is going on there.

More realistically you could just accept that you'll be attacked and can't do anything about it. Probably most people aren't prepared to become a stealth avenger of the night, but rolling over and accepting that kind of thing (depending on what exactly happened) could have pretty negative long term effects on you.

Hope you're able to work out a good solution.

[–]nolocus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I'm legally disabled and because of that if I end up jailed I lose my disability benefits, and these people know that. However this is getting to a point that doesn't matter any more.

It's a work in progress. I'm following my lawyer's advice and reporting the death threats to the (corrupt) Sheriff. Last week I just received my third death threat from another couple that moved here from Portland Oregon area. I was born 350 miles from here. The others recently moved here from the Detroit area, both are focusing their toxicity on me because they are unhappy miserable people that fucked off most of their life and now can't retire.

Lastly, I'm licensed and bonded for protection if these people attempt to carry out their threats against me. Government is hands off thus enabling this to continue. It's a 'Catch 22' situation.

[–]NodeIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

both are focusing their toxicity on me

Too bad there's not some 'totally uninvolved' person who could show up and make some corrections. That's not a great situation to be in. Whatever you can safely do to extricate yourself would be the way to go. That kind of thing wears on you more than you sometimes realize while you're in it. Being able to relax in your own place has immense value.

[–]nolocus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Running from a problem is not a solution. The rhetoric isn't new, it's nationwide, and this is my small town sample. My harassers are from the Portland OR, and Detroit MI areas, surprised? The County told me it's up to me to stop this as they have no jurisdiction. The District Judge told me I have a 'right' to my private property and these people absolutely hate that, so I'm attacked with threats and vandalism. I'm taking the County's advice as legal options have played out.

[–]NodeIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sounds odd that people come from distant states to attack you. What if one of them died while trying to vandalize your place? Maybe they tried to cut into an electrical line, or fell under the tractor while trying to move it?