So , let's see what's on Fox's front page after the latest domestic terrorism...

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

What domestic terrorism?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

While there are many potential definitions of domestic terrorism, it is largely defined as terrorism in which the perpetrator targets his/her own country. Enders defines domestic terrorism as "homegrown in which the venue, target, and perpetrators are all from the same country."[...]

Under the 2001 USA Patriot Act, domestic terrorism is defined as "activities that (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the U.S. or of any state[...]

In 2020, in response to Public Law 116-92, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2020, the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice/FBI published the following definition of domestic terrorism: "Domestic Terrorism for the FBI’s purposes is referenced in U.S. Code at 18 U.S.C. 2331(5), and is defined as activities: Involving acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State[...]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism

Sometimes a racial and/or political motivation is considered in one of the definitions, but the basic initial definitions are above. Anyone guilty of the acts noted above can face a 'domestic terrorism' charge. I reference the term because the premeditated murders at the massage parlors were intended to terrorize everyone there, and mass shootings like this are a 'domestic' problem. There are also reports that the 21-year-old was radicalized by Trump supporters' comments regarding the "China-flu" and the problems it's caused, but I don't know. It's interesting that the police were really quick to post a statement that the asshole's motivations were "sexual addiction". Frankly, he's a domestic terrorist, if guilty, and deserves the maximum punishment.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Oh fuck, why don't we just call all crime terrorism then.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I see your point. Though the law includes a very broad definition at the outset, it's unlikely that anyone would face a 'domestic terrorism' charge unless it could be appropriately argued that there was a significant political motivation (eg. QBoogaloo MAGAtard revenge against 'commie-flu' people). The initial broad definition is there to help the prosecution in the event of reasonable doubt about the political motivation. If the motivation is understood to be racist, the murderer could be charged for committing a 'hate crime'.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

It seems like a slippery slope to me. And hate crimes get overused. When the gov charges you they aim as high as they can. It gives them a better position to make the defendant plea. We've had "terrorism" increasing used these days.

This was a whack job who went nuts. It's different than Mohamed Atta flying a plane into the building.

I don't think we do ourselves any favors by letting enemies of the US be defined too broadly.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It is a slippery slope, but there are ways to help prevent this kind of thing from happening.

Whereas this is relatively unusual in much of the developed world, it's unfortunately rather common in the US (esp. before COVID19), due to a number of problems that can be addressed in a wealthy country like the US (which otherwise compares with developing countries for income inequality, lack of regulation, corruption, poor public education funding, poor health standards, the environment, drugs, social care, health care for the 99%, &c).

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's not preventable though. We're never going to eliminate crime. We can't stop it from happening.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Agreed, but we also don't have to reinvent the wheel. There are approaches in other countries that have reduced mass shootings.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The US has the 12th highest number of mass shootings per capita. It seems like we're #1 but when adjusted per capita it seems like it's not us doing something wrong.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes - though comparing per-capita rakings between a country with 332 million and countries that have only 5 million (Norway) or 7 million (Serbia) skews the data in favor of the country that's 100x larger. (It's stats manipulation.) See how that works with 'deaths/1M pop' here:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Here is a better assessment:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/08/05/743579605/how-the-u-s-compares-to-other-countries-in-deaths-from-gun-violence

If you don't like NPR, I can find other sources.

The source you've linked to is considered relatively biased, here:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/world-population-review/

Also, look at the trend in active shooter incidents here:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/08/16/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

Compared with large (150M+) 1st world countries, the US has had a very high number of mass shootings/capita.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I want footage. Until then this narrative sounds awfully idiotic like Pulse Nightclube idiotic.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Me too. I hope there won't be a manipulated narrative, and that the evidence will clarify what happened.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It almost never does, and if evidence does come forward it is deliberately contradicting (ambiguity method in perception management.) DHS conducts PsyOp for TV with local and state PD weekly.