MSNBC Panel Suggests Antifa Is Noble, the Right Is Worse Than Al-Qaeda

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Especially at newsbusters.org

Everything in the video is - as the title says - appropriately referring to anti-fascism as a worthy cause (which it has been for decades) and right-wing movements as worse than Al-Qaeda for their attempts to harm the US directly, from the inside.

[–]Akali 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You're aware that Antifa is an organisation which have been recorded decades if not hundreds of time breaking cars, looting and attacking people?

I think the random folk who live in an appartment and work 9/5 hours shift has the same right to private propreties and safety as the workers in the capitol hill.

In both event, the police doesn't do shit to prevent the event, the only difference is that when Antifa does it, the mainstream media support it.

Nothing about looting, hurting, breaking and attacking is a worthy cause.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Arguments that 'Antifa' is an organized group are false, and perpetuated only by extreme right wing news media. I've discussed this before on Saidit, and the best that anyone could find for Antifa as an organized group was an 'antifa' group in Portland Oregon, and much smaller groups in a handful of metropolitan areas. It's not a national movement. Yes, there are people who consider themselves anti-fascists, such as WWII Allied solders, and a few BLM protestors, but the actual focus of anti-facists is not on a national 'antifa' movement. They focus instead on a range of interests, one of which is against fascism in general. These groups include BLM, environmentalists, LGBTQ+, vegans, extinction rebellion, animal rights, anti-Big Oil, anti-Wallstreet, women's rights, Me Too, and other movement protestors. Many of them agree with one another and with anti-fascism, but are not all themselves part of one group. Saidit will want to call them all 'liberals', but that too is misleading. Some of them are left-leaning libertarians, or anarchists, or conservative liberals, or independents, or Bernie supporters, etc. The biggest problem with getting support from the left is that they all have so many different concerns and demands. It's much easier to get the support of right-wing voters. Trump's turning point with this group 4 years ago was when he mentioned in a debate with Hilary that he was Pro-Life. His approval rating among the radical right improved at that point. Before that debate, nothing he had done indicated that he was Pro-Life. But I digress. There is no centrally organized Antifa, and one cannot say that crimes (eg. breaking cars, looting and attacking people) are automatically Antifa crimes. Thugs committing crimes are doing so for personal reassons; not as a directive from an Antifa headquarters.

[–]Akali 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So you're saying when rioters loots, steal and break stuff then claim to be antifa, they are just roleplaying?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So you didn't read what I wrote.

Others claim that criminals are antifa. They are not antifa. Stop trolling.

[–]Akali 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I read what you wrote. I've seen decades of video of BLM and antifa rioting. Some of them have been identified and they posted themselves they were antifa on their social media.

I get what you mean by there's no ''organisation'', but if those criminals identify as antifa and the media don't push back against them saying they are highjacking the name of the movement, then through their silence, they are accepting their claims to be part of antifa and to represent its movement.

If I hear antifa, I hear riot, looting and philosophie teacher smashing the head open of a peaceful protester with an Iron lock before runing away while getting caught on camera and losing his job.

It doesn't matter what the movement try to be. If it doesn't repress the criminals who highjack the name, then it allow it to be highjacked.