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[–]Zahn 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

A review by Skinner and Sutton in 2001 concluded that “The evidence for discontinuing the use of surgical face masks would appear to be stronger than the evidence available to support their continued use.” https://app.cyberimpact.com/click-tracking?ct=ddlxOXTWWl90EryEqcEKoaL2h-gzSc6NGMnZYisIeb1prfLYB2BA0WFJB1WtM2OHdYEwquDuQxpj6iPyIA-mu_9ONer7__h5aFc1_BuYu0w~ PDF!

Lahme et al., in 2001, wrote that “surgical face masks worn by patients during regional anaesthesia, did not reduce the concentration of airborne bacteria over the operation field in our study. Thus they are dispensable.” https://europepmc.org/article/med/11760479

Figueiredo et al., in 2001, reported that in five years of doing peritoneal dialysis without masks, rates of peritonitis in their unit were no different than rates in hospitals where masks were worn. http://www.advancesinpd.com/adv01/21Figueiredo.htm

Bahli did a systematic literature review in 2009 and found that “no significant difference in the incidence of postoperative wound infection was observed between masks groups and groups operated with no masks.” https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Does-evidence-based-medicine-support-the-of-in-in-Bahli/751acd427c20c8dc7d1fbc1b45eead104286f481?p2df

Surgeons at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden, recognizing the lack of evidence supporting the use of masks, ceased requiring them in 2010 for anesthesiologists and other non-scrubbed personnel in the operating room. “Our decision to no longer require routine surgical masks for personnel not scrubbed for surgery is a departure from common practice. But the evidence to support this practice does not exist,” wrote Dr. Eva Sellden. https://pubs.asahq.org/anesthesiology/article/113/6/1447/9572/Is-Routine-Use-of-a-Face-Mask-Necessary-in-the

Webster et al., in 2010, reported on obstetric, gynecological, general, orthopaedic, breast and urological surgeries performed on 827 patients. All non-scrubbed staff wore masks in half the surgeries, and none of the non-scrubbed staff wore masks in half the surgeries. Surgical site infections occurred in 11.5% of the Mask group, and in only 9.0% of the No Mask group. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1445-2197.2009.05200.x

Lipp and Edwards reviewed the surgical literature in 2014 and found “no statistically significant difference in infection rates between the masked and unmasked group in any of the trials.” Vincent and Edwards updated this review in 2016 and the conclusion was the same. https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD002929.pub2/full

Carøe, in a 2014 review based on four studies and 6,006 patients, wrote that “none of the four studies found a difference in the number of post-operative infections whether you used a surgical mask or not.” https://europepmc.org/article/med/25294675

Salassa and Swiontkowski, in 2014, investigated the necessity of scrubs, masks and head coverings in the operating room and concluded that “there is no evidence that these measures reduce the prevalence of surgical site infection.” https://journals.lww.com/jbjsjournal/Abstract/2014/09030/Surgical_Attire_and_the_Operating_Room__Role_in.11.aspx

Da Zhou et al., reviewing the literature in 2015, concluded that “there is a lack of substantial evidence to support claims that facemasks protect either patient or surgeon from infectious contamination.” https://app.cyberimpact.com/click-tracking?ct=8XxKbw1a2tlsGS7OVvC-myVx50CQeX6oobkGLYONaABvQQiClT0d3LXoNrvXbfQhxo4nwt3Q8Et_YSEkxFx275oiqB-rFYJbNJL6Yiv8To4~ PDF!

n Epidemics 2017, a meta-analysis concluded that masks had a non-significant protective effect. In the Annuals of Internal Medicine, April 2020, “neither surgical nor cotton masks effectively filtered SARS-CoV-2 during coughs by affected people.”

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1755436516300858

According to a University of New South Wales, the widespread use of masks by healthcare workers may put them at increased risk of respiratory illness and viral infections, and their global use should be discouraged.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2015-04-masksdangerous-health.html

In the British Medical Journal 2015, “Over three times, the risk of contracting influenza-like illness if a cloth mask is used versus no mask at all.” Contaminated masks and masks holding moisture and pathogen retention can increase the risk of infection.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/

A 2016 study in the Journal of Exposure Science & Environmental Epidemiology found 97% of particles penetrated cloth masks, and 44% of particles penetrated medical masks. They reported that cloth masks are only marginally beneficial in protecting individuals from particles less than 2.5 micrometers.

https://www.nature.com/articles/jes201642

As referenced in the New England Journal of Medicine, the size of Coronavirus particles varied between 0.06 micrometers and 0.14 micrometers.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001017

Cloth and surgical masks do not have a fit test. When worn, gaps around the edges allow small particles to enter the respiratory system. Also, according to the May 2010 edition of PLoS One, lack of eye protection was a primary risk factor of SARS-CoV transmission.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32310553/

Wearing a mask for seven hours straight may not be safe. Carbon dioxide (CO2) rebreathing has been recognized as a concern in the Ergonomics Journal.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23514282/

In the Head and Neck Pain Journal, most healthcare workers develop de novo PPE‐associated headaches or exacerbation of their pre‐existing headache disorders.

https://headachejournal.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/head.13811

The Antimicrobial Resistance & Infection Control Journal demonstrated, “Breathing through N95 mask materials have been shown to impede gaseous exchange and impose an additional workload on the metabolic system of pregnant healthcare workers. The benefits of using an N95 mask to prevent serious emerging infectious diseases should be weighed against potential respiratory consequences associated with extended N95 respirator usage.

https://aricjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13756-015-0086-z

Masks also hamper oxygen intake; the body and the immune system require optimal levels of oxygen to feed cells and fight off illness, including Covid19. When studied, surgeons who wore surgical masks had a decrease in blood O2 saturation and an increase in pulse rates of the surgeons after the operations due to surgical mask usage.

http://scielo.isciii.es/pdf/neuro/v19n2/3.pdf

According to the Journal of Biomedicines, our oxygen concentration is closely associated with cell survival and immune functioning, making one more susceptible to illness.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6027519/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29395560/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32590322/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15340662/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26579222/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31159777/

[–]Zahn 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Cloth Mask Study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/

Other Mask Studies

https://medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.01.20049528v1

https://medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.30.20047217v2

https://nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214

https://cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567

https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5779801/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19216002/

https://aaqr.org/articles/aaqr-13-06-oa-0201.pdf

https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/65/11/1934/4068747

https://jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bio/23/2/23_61/_pdf/-char/en

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01658736

https://journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/0195-6701(91)90148-2/pdf

https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2493952/pdf/annrcse01509-0009.pdf

https://cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data

https://nap.edu/catalog/25776/rapid-expert-consultation-on-the-effectiveness-of-fabric-masks-for-the-covid-19-pandemic-april-8-2020

https://nap.edu/read/25776/chapter/1#6

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article/54/7/789/202744

https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6599448/

https://acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342

There is zero scientific evidence that wearing a mask, especially for more extended periods, protects us. However, several studies found significant problems with wearing one. Side-effects range from headaches to increased airway resistance, carbon dioxide accumulation, hypoxia, to more severe complications.

A mask is a petri dish for airborne pathogens. If you are not changing masks at maximum every 90 minutes you are creating a nice warm moist habitat for germs an inch from your face. Moreover, without proper glove use, eye protection, and an actual seal around nose and mouth the mask is entirely superficial and ineffective in preventing the spread of pathogens. Not to mention the evidence indicating overexposure to exhaust gasses and concentrations of Co2 with some masks that can be damaging to the immune system.

https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29140516/

https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22188875/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20092668/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19216002/

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=13832

Oh....and about the ubiquitous moisture droplets that makes Covidiots say..."but, but, but I 'm protecting you from me". More research is pointing out that these viruses are primarily infectious via dry Bio-Aerosols! Yep, and much smaller than your pathetic mask, so you're pretty much spreading it ALL THE TIME.

Teller's 2009 article "Aerosol transmission of influenza A virus: a review of new studies" (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2843947/). Teller addresses this directly in the closing discussion.

Increasing evidences point towards a role for aerosol transmission in the spread of influenza (and other similar viruses), at least over short distance where exposure to both aerosol and large droplets occurs. [...] This distinction of ‘short-range aerosol transmission’ is not merely academic; aerosolized particles would readily penetrate or circumvent ordinary surgical masks, and penetration of aerosolized influenza viruses into the LRT where they can initiate infection would account well for the association of aerosol transmission and severe disease.

.....As an additional consideration, it may well be that aerosol transmission is responsible for the most severe cases of disease involving viral infection of the LRT.

[–]RightousBob 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Jesus H Christ! You expect /u/socks to read all of that? That loser shill has trouble with the directions on a pack of pop-tarts let alone a litany of scientific studies and articles.

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Wait - there are directions on packs of Pop-Tarts?

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dis nikkah on fire

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Thank you for the links. As noted earlier, I agree that non-n95 masks are not as efficient as n95 masks, and as research has shown, any mask is better than no mask, even if it's not an n95 mask. For example, this:

aerosolized particles would readily penetrate or circumvent ordinary surgical masks

This is not necessarily true. Aerosolized particles may or may not penetrate or circumvent ordinary surgical masks, but it is so much better to have a mask of any kind than not to have a mask around other people, while also keeping a 6' distance from them, while also getting both vaccine shots. All precautions are necessary in order not to spread the virus. Once you try to argue that the details of one precaution are problematic, using evidence that is only partially related to 2020 scientific research on the spread of COVID19, you begin to avoid the facts and the science regarding the importance of combining all of the necessary precautions.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

0 links to studies

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Zahn provided some of the links. We disagree on how to interpret them. I provided the search string earlier in the discussion. Essentially - masks, testing, vaccine shots and social distancing will have to continue, during and after lockdown. N95 masks help, but are not the ONLY masks one should wear, especially if one cannot get or use n95 masks immediately. Here's a link:

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/preventing-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I am sitting on a crowded bus right now without a mask and others are doing it too. Noone is saying anything. North Americans are just crazy and fear simple cold

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So it was a waste of my time to respond to you? If you have no interest in others or in science....

If you are in the US, and others around you are not wearing masks, you'll continue to see COVID problems, deaths, small businesses go out of business, and the 1% get filthy rich in the process. The 1% have brainwashed you and others into ego trips that continue to spread the virus. It's fucking up the 99%.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

u/bobbobbybob can solve it meanwhile I go buy my lunch now

[–]NodeIndependent 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A repost

Those links with the explanations would make a great post. Or do you have the link to an original?

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UBER BRAVO!