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[–]Jesus[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Are you a bot? The problem with welfare is that it is a trap for poor people but a steal for the wealthy. The disabled person; it is even more of a trap. And I remember that one prominent Israeli citizen mentioning that the US would become a welfare state.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Welfare is great for people with a couple of months between jobs though.

You know, what it was originally meant for.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

All jobs still serve the state and the ruling class unless they are independent, subversive, sustainable, and resilient.

[–]proc0 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Have you heard of starting your own business? That is also a job...

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's true - and unless you develop a certain kind of skills you'll be needing banks, communications, community resources, etc etc etc - all tied into supporting the ruling class too.

But it's certainly a step forward.

Another similar option is forming a cooperative with others to all be co-bosses and self-reliant self-determined and more stable.

I'm soon going to share some of my plans for my own local projects and SaidIt projects.

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    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Nonsense and negativity.

    Cooperatives do work and that's why they won't promote them in pop culture or in general. We can't have people having self-autonomy and control over their own lives and worker-directed-enterprises.

    The coop belongs to the coop members, organized in whatever ways they see fit.

    Who taking over what? Yet who don't and don't what?

    " Most people don't want to deal with the business decisions that may float or sink the whole company. "

    Seriously? Come on man. Most people give more than just a shit about their employment, well-being and future - and therefore care about how their enterprise is operated.

    People do build coops. Most governments don't make it as easy as they could, though some certainly do.

    Do your own research on cooperatives (start in Europe):

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mondragon

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cooperatives+lists