no thats the issue, they dont provide any of that lol. The only middle ground is you like it, I dont. I dont believe it should be used in a debate at all. Its like bringing a huff post article into a non left wing convo and asking everyone to just accept it because you think its a legit source. you like them, fine, knock yourself out. Just no one is going to ever believe anything from places like there or politifact.