Wayback Machine is now dropping right wing sites - the book burning is well underway. Hail your new fascist information overlords.

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[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The federated model is vulnerable to bring shut down by ISPs right? Plus whoever hosts your server, unless you do it yourself. And of course I can be forgiven for hesitating joining your server, since you could say any time decide that I'm worthy of censoring.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

If you don't want to use someone else's instance, you could host your own.

Disclaimer: I'm not entirely sure how this all works other than: centralized = one provider, decentralized = more than one provider, and distributed = everyone is a provider.

[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That's not really conducive to good social media, everyone hosting their own.

That's about my understanding too. You have more experience with ZeroNet than I do though. Does it run in a browser? In any case shouldn't it be as easy to block crypto miners viruses etc. as it is for the browsers?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It was years ago, so I don't remember that much, but yeah, it runs in your browser. The problem is that it downloads all the files — every single one of them — to your computer.

[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think pretty much every site downloads pretty much every file before displaying it. It doesn't stay there for others to download of course. But I'm happy to provide space for worthy content. Seems like the browser and anti-virus software can handle trackers malware etc.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, that ain't right. Only the front-end is downloaded; back-end files ain't. So the HTML document and stylesheet would be temporarily saved to your computer, but not the python or php files in the background. You can't even see these files, which is how companies like Google keep their proprietary code secret.

This can include scripts like crypto miners, but they're destroyed once you leave the website. But with ZeroNet that's different: these files remain on your computer until you manually delete them, and my anti-virus said they where still active even after the webpages where closed.

So even if every webpage did download the back-end it wouldn't matter, because the files would all be deleted after closing the page.

[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I see, makes sense. I guess the browser would have to have extensions installed to block that stuff. A lot of normal web pages content stays on your hd for quicker loading next time you visit. Clearing your cache deletes it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, but cached content ain't active in the back-ground, and only includes very specific things like headers.

And you can't block the files with extensions, because it would break the website. You could try to single-out the bad stuff, but it wouldn't get everything, and could get a lot of false positives.

[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Aren't there already ways to block crypto miners? Epic privacy browser by default blocks all kinds of stuff, and tells you what it's blocked. I can't think of a time when it didn't display a site properly.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Brave blocks them, as well as ads and trackers, but it also breaks a lot of websites. You'd need to be able to block the download of such files before they ever touch your computer. I ain't sure if that's possible, maybe it is. I know you can just block all .exe files and it would be fine, but other stuff ain't so cut n dry.