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It's All Politics
Biden vote harvester arrested in Texas for election fraud
submitted 3 years ago by scrubking from twitter.com
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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (18 children)
Okay. I guess this means Texas's electoral college votes are supposed to go to Trump? In your delusional world maybe Biden stole Texas? But in the real world Trump got those electoral votes. And I am not ruling out that she will be found guilty because she is guilty, but this might be a witch hunt.
[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (17 children)
Why would it matter who won?
[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (16 children)
The claim is that the election was stolen. This is not evidence of a stolen election.
[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (15 children)
Are you good with puzzles?
[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (14 children)
I don't know. Sorta.
[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (13 children)
Well, I know I have bias with voter fraud since I have been on the receiving end, but I think of these instances of voter fraud coming to light as the pieces to a puzzle of a bigger, national fraud. Just because Texas went for Trump doesn't mean that some people didn't try to swing it to Biden. If there was indeed a fraud campaign in Texas, then there is probably a link to fraud campaigns in other states. If the pieces don't fit, then I'll be satisfied that it wasn't "stolen".
[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago* (12 children)
I am no lawyer, but it seems like the electoral college vote are selected by states rather than the state's voters. All states nominally select electors based on the votes of their citizens. If states' elections are corrupted, it is up to those states' citizens to hold their local officials accountable. That is the electoral college game. There is a wisdom too it. If you are going to fuck an election up, you have to fuck with a bunch of states instead of a single government entity. Checks and balances. Leftists tend to ignore that when they want to replace the electoral college.
[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (11 children)
You are correct. There is no right to vote for the individual citizen, and I see your point about the citizens of the state holding their own officials accountable. Maybe this will loosen up some investigations in other states or strengthen the effort of those who want to see more investigation by their officials.
[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (10 children)
If Republican voters and Democratic voters vote in completely different ways, voter suppression becomes way to easy, as a party can make it harder for the other party's voters to vote.
I think electronic voting machines should print a human readable ballot out for the voter. There can be pre-printed ballots in case the machines fail somehow. If the voting machines didn't seem to fail, there will be an initial electronic voting count. Each voter places the ballot in an envelope, then a drop box. Each envelope can have multiple numeric security keys that prove there are official polling place ballots inside. The federal government, states, counties, and maybe political parties can place security keys on each ballot envelope. Every used and unused ballot envelope gets accounted for. Then they check to see if the electric count and the paper count are equal. It probably wastes paper? Maybe it has a deep security flaw?
[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (9 children)
I like your ideas. We have a readable paper ballot that gets printed when we vote locally. We hand deliver it to a poll worker who drops it into a locked box. I think they only use it for hand-to-eye recounts but it is there for a hard copy back-up.
I have issue with two avenues for fraud. The first is mail-in ballots. In years past, the absentee ballots were fewer and easier to authenticate. This year, the mail-in ballots were way too easy to misuse: from ballot harvesting to fake (or any ineligible) voters. The second is voter I.D., or lack thereof. I was the victim of this. I did not find out until two years later and there was nothing I could do about it.
Your ideas included with proper authentication would sure up most of the problems, in my opinion.
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