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[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Are you saying that the right is prejudiced, but it's ok because they're very open and honest about it?

If you think Saidit is representative of conservatives in general, you are mistaken.

Don't be so hard on yourselves, you're not all Gab.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Are you saying that the right is prejudiced, but it's ok because they're very open and honest about it?

No. I am not saying that at all. This is a great example of imagining what someone else might think and then criticizing them for it. A huge problem on the left these days, as the data shows.

[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

No. I am not saying that at all. This is a great example of imagining what someone else might think

I asked the question. Based on what you said.

and then criticizing them for it.

And of course that didn't happen. But you sure do love playing the victim.

As you generalize about leftists and assume you know me. Stop oppressing me!!!!

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

It's not a "both sides" situation. The research shows conservatives know quite well what leftists think and why. When we answer questionnaires about what you believe, we get it right. But the left has no idea what we think, and when they answer questionnaires, they get it wildly wrong.

[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

No, it's a pot calling the kettle black (and then whining about prejudice) situation.

Y'all are far from coy, is there some reason that what you say is actually not what you think? Cause you're running your mouths all the fucking time.

Does this fool leftists? Who buys this shit? I hear what you say, read what you post, and I see what you do. I grew up with y'all. You're not complicated, and you'd better find another audience if you want someone to believe that you are.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

And yet you cannot answer a questionnaire and accurately answer as to what conservatives believe. You have a ridiculous parody in your mind. That's what the data shows.

[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

I do not speak for "leftists".

But every aspect of life in the USA indicates very clearly that conservatives lie like goddamn rugs.

My advice: stop being ridiculous parodies, and then you can discontinue this ridiculous "we're victims!" charade.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

But every aspect of life in the USA indicates very clearly that conservatives lie like goddamn rugs.

The evidence doesn't support this ridiculous conclusion. However, this is exactly what someone would say who is ignorant about what the opposition believes.

My advice: stop being ridiculous parodies, and then you can discontinue this ridiculous "we're victims!" charade.

So sad that you can't stop veering into accusing The Other of desiring what you consider a sacred value: being a victim. I'm merely stating that the data support the conclusion that the left has no idea what conservatives value or what they think, and you somehow twist it into victimology.

[–]FreedomUltd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

The evidence doesn't support this ridiculous conclusion.

Well pony the fuck up.

what you consider a sacred value: being a victim.

So sad that you can't stop whining about being called black while calling the kettle black.

But I have not missed the irony of conservatives trying to steal pages from the liberal playbook.

I'm merely stating that the data support the conclusion that the left has no idea what conservatives value or what they think, and you somehow twist it into victimology.

Right. That was "We're misunderstood!" A close cousin, of course, of the "We're victims!" from previous posts.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Well pony the fuck up.

I thought SJWs like you didn't believe in evidence, logic and reason? Those are Enlightenment values, that created racism, slavery and white supremacy. But just in case anyone else is reading this:

http://theindependentwhig.com/haidt-passages/haidt/conservatives-understand-liberals-better-than-liberals-understand-conservatives/

https://web.archive.org/web/20150428090025/http://www.aei.org/publication/liberals-or-conservatives-whos-really-close-minded/

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonathan-haidt.html

And in a survey of 2,000 Americans, Haidt found that self-described liberals, especially those who called themselves “very liberal,” were worse at predicting the moral judgments of moderates and conservatives than moderates and conservatives were at predicting the moral judgments of liberals. Liberals don’t understand conservative values. And they can’t recognize this failing, because they’re so convinced of their rationality, open-mindedness and enlightenment.

Johnathan Haidt's research has so far uncovered six evolved psychological mechanisms of social perception, subconscious intuitive understanding, and conscious reasoning. He calls them moral foundations. He ALSO finds that moral foundations are the essential building blocks of human society. In his 2008 TED Talk "The Moral Roots of Liberals and Conservatives" he explains that human society is possible through the use of "all the tools in the toolbox." It's no coincidence that evolution pre-wired them into our brains.

Haidt finds that conservatives use all of them but liberals use about half of them, and of that half mostly just one. There's no conservative moral foundation that is not also a liberal one, but half of the conservative foundations are external to, and inaccessible by, liberal cognition.

When half of the evolved psychological mechanisms of social perception and understanding are essentially unavailable to one's subconscious intuitions and conscious reasoning one is left with no cognitive alternative for understanding people who think differently but to conclude that they're afflicted with some sort of mental dysfunction.

A conversation about social issues between a liberal and a conservative is like a conversation about rainbows between a color blind person and a fully sighted one in which the color blind liberal "knows" that the sighted conservative is an extremist nut case because he sees moral colors that "everybody knows" are just not there, and conservative think liberals are misinformed because they DON'T see moral colors that everybody knows ARE there.

R. R. Reno concluded his review of The Righteous Mind in the magazine First Things as follows:

"Thus the profound problem we face. Liberalism is blind in one eye, yet it insists on the superiority of its vision and its supreme right to rule. It cannot see half the things a governing philosophy must see, and claims that those who see both halves are thereby unqualified to govern."