Four volunteers who got Pfizer's vaccine developed Bell's palsy

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[–]whistlepig 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

FTA: Bell's palsy can happen to anyone at any time, and its cause is unknown, though viral respiratory infections are considered a risk factor

False. It is caused by damage of the nerves in the temple area. Happened to me 20 years ago instigated by the flu. The virus got into the bony passage in that area that is basically a small tunnel not much bigger than the nerve that goes through it from your spine to the facial muscles that it controls, like the eyelids and lips and a few others. The infection caused that area of the nerve to inflame which caused it to expand, but since it can't expand beyond the bony canal it damages itself in that area. Each side affecting its side of the face. Only one side being affected is more common. No surprise it caused the worst headaches of my life that the most disgusting pharma painkillers didn't really help much. Happened to both sides of my face and I had to tape my eyes shut to sleep, add eye goo because they would dry out, I couldn't smile (and therefore it was impossible to be happy) and did I mention the constant headaches? Took about a year before most of the nerves grew back. Headaches went away and eyes could eventually close. One side of my smile still doesn't work as well, but as far as I am concerned I'm "fully" healed.

It was brutal and a person would have to be very evil and have caused wanton death of innocents for me to wish such a thing upon them.

My point being that I view such a risk to be a VERY BIG deal.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's terrifying, thanks for sharing.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Very helpful information. This also helps to show that - among the hundreds of people in the vaccine trials, there is perhaps a 1% chance that this can happen (eg. 4 people out of 400), and there is the same potential for this for someone with the flu. And though extremely painful, there is no difference beween the potential to get this with a flu and with a vaccine. Thus the potential that the vaccine causes 'temporary facial paralysis' is no different than with the flu. Moreover, The Daily Mail is a propaganda rag that's famous for helping its fascist corporate supporters by spreading misleading information and lies. Thank you very much for sharing this story. I would agree it's terrifying, and wouldn't want even 1% of the people to get this. The association with the vaccine is however questionable, it would seem.

[–]whistlepig 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1% sounds incredibly high to me. If 1% of the time a person catches the flu or receives a flu vaccine they suffered from this potentially very very painful and scary affliction it would be a very big deal and talked about a lot more than it is. A lot of people get the flu vaccine once a year. 1% would be an extremely large number for something that happens so often. If I play russian roulette and there is a theoretical one round in a 100 round revolver.... my chances of having the worst headache ever keep going up each time I "play".

Also... there is a high chance that the paralysis is permanent. My doctor seemed to have been implying that it was much more likely that I wouldn't heal. In fact, I never did 100%. One side of my face still doesn't work completely. People can't tell I'm smiling if they're looking from the wrong side. Its been over two decades. It isn't getting better than it is. I'm ok with that because the way it was had been so very bad.

The fact that this happened more than once is extremely scary. Once could be considered an unfortunate aberration, not more than once.

[–]magnora7 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Pfizer's is the mRNA vaccine. It puts a piece of RNA in your cells, that makes proteins, that disable the spike protein on the virus (which is how it attaches).

We've never had a successful mRNA vaccine in the history of mankind, yet they roll this one out in 1/10th the time of a regular tested vaccine? People should be extremely wary of mRNA vaccines until they are further tested.

Pfizer is rushing this out to market, and furthermore does not have liability for any side effects because of the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (instead vaccine injury payouts come from our tax dollars). So from a profit perspective Pfizer doesn't care about using the public as guinea pigs to test new vaccine technologies, because the legal system is now designed to create this profit incentive as a result of decades of lobbying for them to minimize legal liability.

This is not about health. This is about profit, and using people's fear to create artificial demand for their product. And as a result we will see all these horrible side effects that are likely worse than the disease itself.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Is the shot safe doctor? Of course, trust me, I'm a doctor! So what about these side effects I hear about, do you know what causes this palsy? No, we haven't a clue about that sort of thing, no... Now roll up your sleeve for me.

[–]EvilNick 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

"So doc you had no side effects?"

"Dear god Im not taking that thing"

[–]IridescentAnaconda 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I dare you to find a reference to the side effect you're talking about.

Can't find it, can you?

Oh, you seem to have saved some article you downloaded 3 months ago?

Sorry, that won't do: it's no longer part of the scholarly record.

[–]bobbobbybob 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

it's no longer part of the scholarly record.

Funny. When I was at university, I'd have to search dusty old libraries for copies of papers written 10-200 years previously.

Nowadays, if it isn't politically acceptable, research vanishes in weeks

[–]ReeferMadness 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We are living in the new dark ages.

[–]book-of-saturday 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, fucking with archives sites and Wikipedia, even changing old news articles (which is such a scum move)

[–]cheesefart 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

pg 16 https://www.fda.gov/media/143557/download

[–]IridescentAnaconda 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Banned for spreading covid misinformation.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Whatever you say, Doctor.

[–]DrBooty 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

i am an internet docotor, i took the vaccine in suppository form and the only side effect i got was an erection.

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    [–]DrBooty 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    dont worry, all of the vaccines are from microsoft, so its all good.

    [–]hennaojichan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    You may experience a blue screen at any time after getting the vaccine.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Remember to pay your subscription fees, and all your issues will be patched in time. Existing customers get new vaccines for free.

    [–]dissidentrhetoric 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I think I'd rather get a corona cold than a neurological disorder. thanks though.

    [–]cheesefart 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    A vaxxer walks in to the bar, the bartender says " why the long face?"

    [–]ItchMcConnell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The claim that they recovered is reassuring but the fact that it happened it more concerning. Also, if it wasn't a big deal, where's the total number who took it?

    [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    more evidence that they know that the CNS is the target organ

    [–]hennaojichan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    During the lockdown I have developed Open-Barre Syndrome. I will not be getting the vaccine.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    You mean Guillain-Barre Syndrome? Open Bar syndrome sounds kinda awesome.

    [–]hennaojichan 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    It IS awesome.

    [–]AcceleratedWallops 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    So far, the FDA said that the number of Bell's palsy cases seen in the Pfizer vaccine trial was 'consistent with the background frequency of reported Bell's palsy in the vaccine group that is consistent with the expected background rate in the general population

    How many were in the trial?

    [–]chadwickofwv 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    They'll never tell you that. The only reason you know about it at all is someone squealed.

    [–]mharmless 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    ~25k each in control and vaccinated groups.

    Four cases in the vaccinated group, none in the control.

    [–]AcceleratedWallops 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    So 16 per 100k, quick Google says 35 per 100k in the population.

    So...this is suddenly not so suspicious.

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    That's not good. My old college roommate got it. Was painful then paralyzed half his face - more than weeks - for years, often permanent. Droopy. Jean Chrétien, Canada's former prime minister had it too.