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[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

I mean if we had a real plague where like 5% of people were dying, then I would support the lockdowns.

But this flu where 99.4% survive? 3x as bad as a bad flu season? This is not worth locking the world down for.

Especially since it mutates regularly and there will be no vaccine that solves it, just like there is no vaccine that solves the flu, only last year's strain.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I mean if we had a real plague where like 5% of people were dying, then I would support the lockdowns.

If it was communicated through aerosolized then the lockdown would still be pointless.

Also, people would willingly avoid public encounters if 1 in 20 were dropping dead, because the remaining 19 would also be sick AF.

Lockdowns are only useful for hoaxes.

Edit: Also, if people do begin to drop dead, then something significant has changed.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Quarantine is useful to reduce transmission, it's a technique that is proven to work. If it was airborne and was also killing 5% of people, everyone would rightfully be freaking the heck out.

Even during the black death, which killed 35% of people or so (100x worse IFR than covid), some towns survived by quarantining themselves from the rest of Europe.

https://www.history.com/news/plague-italy-public-health-ferrara

Ferrara managed to prevent even a single death from the plague after the year 1576—even as neighboring communities were devastated. How did they do it? Critical in the city's success, records suggest, were border controls, sanitary laws and personal hygiene.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Quarantine is useful to reduce transmission, it's a technique that is proven to work.

Proven to work in the dark ages, where they had zero knowledge of bacterial infections, or sanitation, or nutrition.

Exercise doesn't make this particular list, as those folks could certainly show us a thing or two about daily activity.

The true unsung hero of this era is modern sanitation.

Health and nutrition are the other pillars that minimize infection/transmission.

Sanitation is the full plate armor defense.

Health and nutrition are the comfortable leather padding, for support.

Are you aware of any modern success stories of quarantines?
Certainly not "ebola". ;-)

We don't quarantine the healthy, because it actually creates many more problems than it solves.

Rather than counterproductive quarantines, local agencies should be encouraged to issue high-quality naturally produced/derived vitamins and dietary supplements (none of that synthetic trash).

Crucially vitamin C, D, magnesium, and zinc.

Improving the nutrient intake is the public would save lives and reduce transmissions, with and minimize negative impacts.

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

quarantine is valid. If the virus is contained, then it can die out within the now immune quarantined survivors and there's none left to spread.

But the lockdown was 6 months too late, so its already endemic. Quarantine now serves no purpose.

Also, KEY is tht covid-19 is a CNS demyelinating disease, attacking via olfactory and optic nerves, particularly targeting the brainstem.

the immune system has no action in the brain, the battle is between glial mediated remyelination, and demyelination by the coronavirus (which are used for Multiple sclerosis models).

The glial cells need a supply of:

omega-3

Zinc

Vitamin D

Those are the key factors. Vitamins A & C are just general health things, and may help with breakouts of covid once its travelled out via the nervous system, but nearly 100% of symptoms are due to demyelination, including all the risk factors.

HCQ helps the zinc transport into the glial cells, the doctors blabbering on about the lungs are barking up the wrong tree because they are not cross-discipline experts with a background in neurosciences, specifically disease models

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Modern hygiene is great in theory but we still live in a world where 50% of men don't wash their hands after going to the toilet. If you solved that problem covid would be far less of a problem. I think every super spreader who has been reported on so far has been male.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sanitation prevents the nasty non-handwashers from contracting the real killers.

Cholera, Scarlett fever, etc. The illnesses that we never hear about.

Sanitation is about more than hand washing. It's running water, water treatment, sewers, sewage treatment, etc.

Also, there's significant evidence that handwashing isn't all that significant in reducing viral transmission.

It's mostly effective in preventing the spread of bacteria.

[–]wuzizname 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

70 days. Every time an area has locked down for 20+ days, 70 days later the virus has reached epidemic status again. I was listening to a statistician on talk radio who broke it down, he surveyed every country or area that applied shut downs and in every case the most it bought them was 70 days before the whu flu reached a level where hospitals were being over loaded.

So, instead of taking advantage of those 70 days and doing stuff like.. I don't know, building more hospitals and setting up more treatment facilities the government does nothing and just plans to lock down again. All those trillions of dollars wasted paying healthy people to not go to work instead of being invested in better hospitals and long term health care facilities is infuriating to me.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

it was supposed to kill 5-10%, turns out the Chinese can't even make a virus that lasts more than 6 months.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Biological weapons are shit in general. That's how the Americans got away with using them in Korea, they didn't work so they could pretend it didn't happen.

[–]LarrySwinger2Voluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This was coordinated with the Western media, therefore it's highly unlikely that this was the Chinese trying to sabotage us.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the videos of people dropping dead in China was part of the game.

The UN wants a transfer of global superpower to China. THe virus was made in Harvard, stolen & further developed in Canada and transported to Wuhan. The man who enabled the Chinese bioweapons scientist (female) who stole and moved the virus to China was assassinated in Africa. This is all on record, so we know the Chinese had a large role to play in this coordinated NWO action.

https://greatgameindia.com/frank-plummer-canadian-lab-scientist-key-to-coronavirus-investigation-assassinated/

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5451624