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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

This was the philosophy of the founding fathers, and is now espoused by those calling themselves "conservatives".

They claim that when it suits them, but the government keeps growing under conservatives and there's aspect of people's lives they want to control too.

It's the same damn devil either way, we shouldn't fight amongst our peon selves hoping massa sees us being obedient, faithful little slaves.

[–]StillLessons[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You raise a good question. Does such a beast exist as a government that doesn't grow - given enough time - to take on tyrannical powers? Given any particular "problem" in common, groups of people consistently look for "someone" to "solve" it. This is a force of human psychology naturally leading to endless reasons to call for more government. Is it possible - and if so how - to put a lid on this tendency for government creep? I'm sorry I don't have an answer for this question. It's a good one and critically important to the debate.

[–]ChillyChili 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. Go libertarian. Reduce govt control and involvement. Stop the psyops and propaganda that exists to push a narrative. If they think people are too stupid otherwise, and "need" control by these means, try educating them instead. They support a divide because then the people are against each other and not looking at the main problem together, united.. "them".