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[–]Tarrock 27 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

-What has positive relations ever done for us besides get us in more wars?

-The US is far below what the Paris climate accord was aiming for, without giving them our money. How would he do this, especially with the next question?

-If Democrats are going to tax the rich, why are all the rich people, wall street types, and major corporations supporting him?

-What weakened institutes?

-What power grab?

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

What has positive relations ever done for us besides get us in more wars?

Strengthen our economy, international stability, and geopolitical influence.

The US is far below what the Paris climate accord was aiming for, without giving them our money. How would he do this, especially with the next question?

Google it

If Democrats are going to tax the rich, why are all the rich people, wall street types, and major corporations supporting him?

Because Trump is a disaster for American stability and a total disgrace to every American value.

What weakened institutes?

Postal service, disaster preparedness, EPA, FCC, I could go on all day.

What power grab?

For instance, trying to force states to stop counting votes when it looks like he's ahead. Also firing Comey, forcing out Rosenstein, etc.

[–]Tarrock 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

1)The world is more stable than ever minus Coronavirus, which is entirely on china. Trump signed several peace agreements between middle eastern nations which are always the cause of wars in the last several decades.

2)You lose an argument when you say "Google it"

3)You're making an emotional argument. Any stablility issues can be blamed on the media's non-stop fear mongering, which as a reminder are all multi-billion corporations and for some reason are all supporting the candidate promising to raise their taxes.

4)The postal service has always been garbage that is a money sink and is run ineffiently. There's a reason why FedeX and UPS became as big as they are. Also, all the rucus about the postal service was only done because Nancy Pelosi's husband has high value contracts from the USPS. As a reminder, the Pelosis are worth 130M and are siding with the candidate promising to raise their taxes. There's been problems with disaster relief before bush. There's nothing wrong with the FCC, I still remember the left saying we'd all die from Net Neutrality being revoked, and absolutely nothing happened once it was.

5)While I disagree with the whole stop counting thing, there's huge problems right now with observers being disallowed from just watching from afar, which is mainly behind it. Also, the President has the ability to fire CIA, FBI, etc heads at any time. Why are you protecting these agencies as they're unelected jobs with 0 accountability to the american people. These agencies literally have depts dedicated to destabilizing and undermining foreign countries.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

1)The world is more stable than ever minus Coronavirus, which is entirely on china.

Not America

2)You lose an argument when you say "Google it"

I'm not here to win an argument

Any stablility issues can be blamed on the media's non-stop fear mongering

Trump has spent 4 years sabotaging our institutions and installing yes men for his own personal gain.

4)The postal service has always been garbage that is a money sink and is run ineffiently. There's a reason why FedeX and UPS became as big as they are. Also, all the rucus about the postal service was only done because Nancy Pelosi's husband has high value contracts from the USPS. As a reminder, the Pelosis are worth 130M and are siding with the candidate promising to raise their taxes. There's been problems with disaster relief before bush. There's nothing wrong with the FCC, I still remember the left saying we'd all die from Net Neutrality being revoked, and absolutely nothing happened once it was.

Trump made them worse by installing cronies to protect his personal interests

Also, the President has the ability to fire CIA, FBI, etc heads at any time. Why are you protecting these agencies as they're unelected jobs with 0 accountability to the american people. These agencies literally have depts dedicated to destabilizing and undermining foreign countries.

They should be serving the country, not the president.

[–]Tarrock 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

1)The world doesn't revolve around America. I thought lefties liked to say that.

2)Good, cause you're not.

3)As a reminder: this is power bestowed upon the president by the law and every president has used it by some extent.

4)Trump's lost money as president and essentially ruined his brand, I don't see how he's protecting his personal interests.

5)Then get out and demand the FBI and CIA and other alphabet agencies be held accountable to the people, cause currently they're not.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The world doesn't revolve around America.

It's the American election :/

As a reminder: this is power bestowed upon the president by the law and every president has used it by some extent.

Not an excuse

Trump's lost money as president and essentially ruined his brand, I don't see how he's protecting his personal interests.

He's consolidated tons of power and gotten away with countless crimes.

Then get out and demand the FBI and CIA and other alphabet agencies be held accountable to the people, cause currently they're not.

Will do. First step, vote out the guy misusing them.

[–]slushpilot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Since you say "The US if far below what the Paris climate accord was aiming for", what is the target metric you're referring to? I'm not saying I distrust you, but it's the first time I've heard this claim.

[–]Tarrock 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

carbon emissions.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=43615#:~:text=U.S.%20energy%2Drelated%20carbon%20dioxide%20(CO2)%20emissions%20declined%20by,in%20the%20past%20five%20years.

We've been going down in the last few years. Meanwhile other countries are continuing to rise up.

The Paris Climate accord was just a way to redistribute money from rich countries to poorer ones with no accountability. Most of the money was going to go to nations where you know the money would've ended up in the friendly neighbor warlord's pocket. Not to mention, China's carbon goals requested that they lowered their emissions by 2030, but like I said, it had no teeth, so they were free to take the money and run.

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    [–]One_Jack_MoveLibertarian Party 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Why do nations (like China) get a "Developing" pass?

    [–]wecandobetter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    That IS the billion dollar question, isn't it

    [–]One_Jack_MoveLibertarian Party 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I'll say the REAL reason they are getting a pass: They make our cheap shit for us!

    If they had to reduce their emissions, they could no longer undercut the prices.

    [–]wecandobetter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    That's probably the right answer. I was thinking about that the other day. Companies keep moving manufacturing from cheap shithole to cheap shithole, moving on whenever labor costs start rising. But they're running out of shitholes. The end-state of globalization, unchecked, would be a world-wide equalizing of wealth and labor-leverage. Wealthier people demand things like clean air and water and nature parks and fewer 8-limbed babies. They can't have that. So they have to somehow artificially freeze certain areas in filthy cheapness, bake in a permanent underclass if you will.