New Hampshire homes: “Your address has been added into our database as a target for when we attack should Trump not concede the election.”

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[–]wizzwizz4 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Is this the first election where that's happened, or does this kind of thing happen often? It's, what, 20% of the population who've been given threats on their safety based on how they vote?

… Isn't that illegal?

[–]zyxzevn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Those are fake.
But feel free to investigate it more.

It is not in line with any of the Proud boys principles to do threats that.
But it is in line with the extreme left principles to spread these as black propaganda or hoax "hate-crimes".
And they have been openly threatening to attack trump voters. And actually do it.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Who cares if it was spread as propaganda? These were sent to a large subset of Democrat voters in Florida; it will have an effect on voting, regardless of what other effect it was intended to have.

Why is one instance of voter-threatening an issue, but another not?

[–]battering-ram 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why would this be sent to Democrats as this letter clearly expresses hatred towards Trump which the Democrats are in favor of.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sorry; I mixed the parties up. I was talking about the one fake-from the Proud Boys.

[–]battering-ram 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ah! that makes sense. I agree with what you are saying man

[–]slushpilot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's easy enough to dismiss a spam email as low-energy "foreign interference" hoaxers or whatever, but it's quite another thing to have an actual paper notice posted by an actual person to your actual house.

I mean, these might both still be hoaxes. But if that paper one exists, even as a hoax, it's far more threatening.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

True.

Then again, the paper one would've been pretty localised (there's a limit to how many pieces of paper you can put through letterboxes), whereas there's no reason to think the email one would've gone to anything less than everyone in the database.

Which is worse? Few people × very threatening, or many people × less threatening? I think the answer here's obvious: there is at yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer.

[–]slushpilot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

When posted on the internet, that photo of the physical piece of paper with a staple torn out of it does psychological wonders though.

It doesn't have to be sent to your personal inbox where you can dismiss it as spam. You just have to see it, and think damn.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hmm… But wouldn't photos of the paper make people think “we can't let them threaten us” and vote for the threatened-against? So you've got a localised prevention but a national boon… this is making my head hurt. Too much to think about.