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[–]zyxzevn 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

On reddit and such, people keep falsely claiming that they are right wing extremists.
In their own videos they clearly present themselves as anarchists that want to overthrow the government.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-claims-it-foiled-plot-kidnap-michigan-governor

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In June, Croft, Fox and 13 others from multiple states held a meeting in Dublin, Ohio, near Columbus, according to the government.

Those present included an FBI confidential source who recorded the meetings. The source has been paid $8,600.

“The group talked about creating a society that followed the U.S. Bill of Rights and where they could be self-sufficient,” the FBI agent wrote. -The Detroit News

A paid informant.

Sounds like another case of FBI entrapment. Similar to the WTC 93 bombing, when the FBI provided the bombs and the vehicle.

These are constitutionalists, which isn't anarchy; regardless of their flags.

Also, they're not necessarily wrong in their understanding of the founders original intent.

The Declaration of Independence Says We Have the Right to Overthrow the Government

Unfortunately, were "ruled" by criminals.

The Michigan governor's policies are treasonous.

She betrayed her constituents, and her oath of office.

In my opinion it would be a miracle if this wasn't a completely manufactured case of entrapment. I haven't bothered to look into it, but this type of entrapment is in every state playbook.

I doubt the alleged conspirators were smart enough to record their own communication with the FBI operative. If they were, then these records were likely seized.
Either way, we'll never learn the actual facts.

Unfortunate Patsy's.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, the US government, according to the constitution, should have been overthrown a long time ago. The people in power are foreign criminals.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you believe the wolverine militia PsyOp?

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

False claim? You know a lot of antifa that drive trucks with mounted confederate flags? They were absolutely right-wing, and you're just in denial because you know it makes the right look bad.

[–]zyxzevn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

From the EU, I am pretty neutral in this fight.
We all agree that these are lunatics, and probably that "left" and "right" are not the best words to divide different political ideologies.

In their videos they have anarchist flags, they hate trump, and seem to have anti-government ideas.
I don't think they are actually Antifa, nor right wing extremists.

Antifa is far better organized and try their best not to seem dangerous, but have a similar goal of brining down society.
Cells of Antifa also use false flags, and others stage a lot of things to get media attention.
And some cells just want to see the world burn.
So be very careful with what you see from them.

There are also FBI/CIA infiltrators around during demonstrations,
sometimes even police. And they may push others to initiate violence.
The FBI has already organized crimes for less intelligent people, so they could catch them in the act.
And maybe this time they staged the event too.

[–]The_Lear_Bluce_Ree 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wouldn't really trust any claim by the FBI, they've arrested "terrorists" in the past that ended up being borderline retarded and got supplied and told where to go by the FBI themsleves. They do this kind of stuff from time to time so they can say they are actively stopping terrorism.

There's like 30 white supremacists in this country despite what dipshit politicians and redditors say.

[–]yerafookincunt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ol' boy Timothy McVeigh was supposed to be one of those aforementioned 'manufactured' terrorists.

[–]ReeferMadness 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What a bunch of clowns. Can't even kidnap one person.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Kidnapped by an idea.