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[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Stop arguing for the disease! Who gives a fuck about some old people who were gonna die anyway. That doesn't mean the rest of humanity must suffer. It's a LAME FUCKING EXCUSE FOR TYRANNY.

Their so-called cure (lockdown, masks, totalitarianism, communism, economic collapse, poison vaccines, surveillance, digital IDs, etc) is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much worse than the disease.

They have bought off ALL the politicians, except for a few. People who don't go along get dealt with. The leader of Belarus was offered a $90 million bribe and refused.

Even my own City Of Windsor council members are all playing along and won't let any skepticism come up in council over the fucking phone. Fuckers.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Who's “they”? 'Cause I'm not convinced it's one group of people.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"They" are the ruling class. That is the most important thing, above all the details. This is a class war. They control the corporations, the governments, the banks, and of course the media.

You are quite correct in that "they" have MANY factions and loyalties and relationships, etc. And they are all pushing and pulling and posturing for position to be king of the hill. In easy terms you could argue that there was the Bush Crime Family vs the Clinton Crime Family (including the Obama Crime Family and Biden Crime Family) vs the Trump Crime Family but that's overly simplistic. Sure all the governors and senators beneath them had/have their loyalties and such but it also applies to every industry and their corporations. The whole thing is a complicated mess - and that's just the USA. And I haven't even mentioned the globalists, Zionists, military, think tanks, NGOs, secret agencies, deep state, and the B.I.S. To make a Venn diagram of the mess would be nearly if not completely impossible. WikiSpooks has made a good start but they are limited.

Despite the ruling class fighting for superior positions they agree that we must all be subjected to their oppression and exploitation. The rest are details they fight about in legislation, etc.

Worse is that all these ruling class people live in their bubble. Just as you don't compare your life to that of a prisoner (justified or not) or a Bushman of the Kalahari or a peasant in Asia, so too these people don't care about any other humans. They only compare themselves to their bubble and try to keep up with the Joneses with their 4th house with swimming pools and a yacht or whatever. They're trapped in their status game of misery, greed, and paranoia rather than fulfillment, meaning and purpose - beyond just making lame legacy bullshit with rewards from fellow high-criminals.

You can research the individuals yourself. I care more about the trends and levers of power rather than the details about who built them and pulls them. Those details don't interest me so much as the injustice and manipulations. Next year I want to do more on WikiSpooks to help newbies and normies understand things, including the detailed stuff. Perhaps we can delve into this together - an exploration of how to introduce folks to proper skepticism of the ruling class, our "leaders", "experts", and all authority. Skepticism doesn't mean all are illegitimate - it just means they must earn our trust, not fail us, and admit when they do.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This (first part of paragraph two) is probably the best explanation of US politics I've read on this site. We probably don't disagree about this as much as I think we do.

And yes, I'd like to help you with that last project – if you think you can manage to put up with my over-scepticism of (what I perceive to be) your over-scepticism, and if I actually have anything to bring to the table. It's important for people who disagree to collaborate on things.