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[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

People die. Average age of COVID deaths is 82. Average lifespan is 81. (Varies from nation to nation.) Always with at least 2 co-morbidities. They're gonna die anyway. People in motorcycle crashes are called COVID deaths. It's fucking stupid. All you need to do is pass a test. We still don't even know what this COVID-19 is other than what they allege it is. The tests are proprietary. Private patented info for profit. There are so many false positives and people being told they have it and they haven't even tested. The thing is a joke if it's even real. ALL doctors, scientists, nurses, and people with related expertise who challenge the official narrative are CENSORED. All they do is drum up fear. They NEVER discuss solutions, such as the potential in the various chemicals and treatments they are CENSORING - including the fundamental Vitamin C.

Just because you want to have blind faith in your leaders, doesn't mean they aren't lying to you perpetually about everything - including this "situation". Shake off the irrational fear porn and wake the fuck up and put on your skeptic hat and do some serious investigating, not regurgitating. FUCK THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA PROVEN LIARS.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Each sentence in order:

Yes. —. —. (True.) Not always, but that's pedantry. We all are. —. Yes. —. I know a bit. Yes. Yes, and it sucks. Yes. Yes. No – they're ignored, that's different; you can still find what they're saying if you look. That's nothing new, and you can still find people who aren't. Not sure who “they” is in this sentence; LessWrong's been discussing this since the pandemic began.

I don't (my leaders suck), and I know they are; I'm sure most people do. I'm not regurgitating. They're not all liars; the Murdoch-owned ones are, but some others (e.g. BBC, unless an election coincides with the charter renewal) aren't.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You NEED to watch this before you continue to have faith in and support BBC and similar government propaganda outlets: /s/WikiLeaks/comments/6ntt/the_bbc_prepares_another_hit_piece_on_independent/

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I can't find the transcript link. Could you post it, please? (Or, better, teach me how to fish find it on the Corbett Report website.)

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

While I'm pretty sure some of his interviews have been transcripted, and much of his content is translated to other languages, it's not listed there.

Of course there's the YouTube auto-translate that you can read.

I said you need to WATCH it, like a human being, not a bot processor.

But if you absolutely must read it, I'll take the auto-transcript and format it for your processing pleasure - and then Corbett can share it with the world too. I don't want to, but will if it makes you realize the corporate media, especially government media, is BEYOND unreliable.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It probably won't make me realise that, so there's little point you expending time on it. (Though I can probably script something to parse the auto-transcript myself, so it'd be a waste of time to do that anyway.)

P.S.: I have realised why I listen to you more than I feel I should, though: when you're talking about problems, you talk like a CAPS-USING Richard Stallman. (Which isn't a good thing; people still think Richard Stallman is crazy, even though he was right. I've heard How to Win Friends and Influence People is a good book for this kind of thing, but I haven't got around to reading it.)

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Then you ARE a SCHILL, intentionally ignoring evidence to be ignorant ON PURPOSE.

Fuck your bullshit excuses and pompous attitude about only reading "legit" sources when you can't even acknowledge that the legitimizing process and all the media and governments are corrupt as fuck.

You don't need to "parse" it. It's already written out for you - just without capitalized sentences or punctuation in a perpetual run on sentence stream. It's easy enough to understand if you read along or someone simply bothers to make sentences from it.

I don't know what you mean with your Stallman reference, beyond the obvious: The sky is falling and no one cares. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra

We're in a manufactured crisis scamdemic while propaganda, shills, idiots, and sheeple refuse to see their world collapsing into this totalitarian "new normal" tyranny bullshit. They've been planning it for DECADES with Agenda 21, Agenda 2030, Lockstep Lockdown, The Great Reset, Event 202, etc. Read and watch: /s/Agenda21_Agenda2030 And throw away your corporate media - and reclaim your Windows/Macs/Google devices.

I've always been curious about that book, but not enough to read it. Maybe I'm naive or pretending I'm too virtuous or something, but it seems like it might be a slimy manipulation gimmick manual for used car salesmen and desperate horny men.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You don't need to "parse" it. It's already written out for you

No, I meant… extract the transcript from whatever weird XML / JSON format YouTube serves it to the client as.

Then you ARE a SCHILL, intentionally ignoring evidence to be ignorant ON PURPOSE.

I said that it probably wouldn't convince me – not that I would ignore it. It was a prediction, not a declaration of intent; sorry for the vagueness. A more detailed explanation of my intent: Unless you think that this video contains all the reasons you think that way, laid out with enough (externally-verifiable) evidence to support all the necessary claims (which I wouldn't know, since I don't know what's in it), it wouldn't make me as certain as you are – and that might not be enough certainty to think it more likely than not (my standard for “convinced”). It'd probably make me more certain (I've already updated on that probably, but I think you'd think, given what I know about what I know, that knowing what the video says will make me more certain still, which is the correct thing to think if you have a justified reason to be more sure about how much the contents of the video will persuade me (e.g. knowing what the video says, and having the contents of the video containing a lot of persuasive evidence).)

when you can't even acknowledge that the legitimizing process and all the media and governments are corrupt as fuck.

Since I led you to believe that, I've experienced the issues of such legitimising first-hand. Not with any malice involved, I don't think – but maybe I'm still just naïve on that matter.

The fact you believe something isn't enough for me to believe it (though it does affect my beliefs a little). Plenty of people around me believe all sorts of things, but them believing them isn't strong evidence for them. Yeah, if I refused to watch it because it was an “unreliable source”, that'd be pompous…

I don't know what you mean with your Stallman reference, beyond the obvious: The sky is falling and no one cares.

Pretty much. But unlike Cassandra, you're not cursed; just not as good at convincing people as you'd need to be. For most of your claims (probably a superset of the ones I agree with you about… I'm just not sure which are the extra ones), you have enough information to convince other people, but your presentation isn't good enough.

We're in a manufactured crisis scamdemic while propaganda, shills, idiots, and sheeple refuse to see their world collapsing into this totalitarian "new normal" tyranny bullshit.

That's just one of the issues. Yeah, it's important, but other people might care more about different ones. Imo, your aim shouldn't be to try to convince people; it should be to foster the behaviour that prevents this from happening. Go a level below (or above… not sure what the proper metaphorical direction is).

Other than my occasional ventures over to Saidit, I don't need to know who's doing what, what the latest plot to hurt everyone is, who's chucking barrels of DDT into the ocean. All I need to do is behave in a way that makes that stuff slightly less effective. The only reason I come here is to check whether that still lines up with what you think – because as hard as it is for me to believe some of the things you're saying, in the past you've known better than I what needs to be done (even if you haven't explicitly identified it). (More than I can say for some; you're one of the ~five Saiditors I actually respect.)

I've always been curious about that book, but not enough to read it. Maybe I'm naive or pretending I'm too virtuous or something, but it seems like it might be a slimy manipulation gimmick manual for used car salesmen and desperate horny men.

That's the same reason I haven't read it – but from what I hear, it's actually a good book. (It certainly doesn't contain dating / “dating” advice; I've heard far too many pick-up “artists” complaining about that.)

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

First: /s/politics/comments/6k15/the_sneaky_corona_virus/pi4i?context=3

I can't be bothered with your code. Give a proper answer including the question to be clear or don't bother.

"They" = those who censor, the lying government and media, as usual

I don't know LessWrong well. You may have linked him before. There are many more who are also less wrong, and no shortage of them have been shared in /s/Coronavirus if you still doubt.

ALL corporate media are perpetual liars. Including and ESPECIALLY the BBC, Ch4, ITV, CBC, and any government media. You're delusional and hypnotized if you think otherwise. Break free. Just because you like their shows or personalities (why their paid to be there) doesn't mean they aren't professional perpetual liars (even if they don't even realize it).

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can't be bothered with your code.

But I see you got a good way through it before giving up. :-p I'll translate the bits I'm not certain you understood.

It's fucking stupid.

Yes.

We still don't even know what this COVID-19 is other than what they allege it is.

I know a bit.

The tests are proprietary. Private patented info for profit. There are so many false positives and people being told they have it and they haven't even tested.

Yes, and it sucks.

ALL doctors, scientists, nurses, and people with related expertise who challenge the official narrative are CENSORED.

No – they're ignored, that's different; you can still find what they're saying if you look.

All they do is drum up fear.

That's nothing new, and you can still find people who aren't.

I don't know LessWrong well. You may have linked him before.

While LessWrong has been used as a pseudonym by the autodidactic polymath Eliezer Yudkowsky, LessWrong's now a forum home to essays like There is a war., and a recent (~9-month-old) subculture performing independent, amateur research on COVID-19; here's their link database if you want to skip the wordy.

Break free. Just because you like their shows or personalities (why their paid to be there) doesn't mean they aren't professional perpetual liars (even if they don't even realize it).

I understand what you're trying to say here, and it's valid, and even by my standards I'm probably being a bit too trusting here – but you'll have to work on your wording a bit if you don't want to sound like a loony. If you're trying to do outreach (which you sound like you are), you're not going to get NTs on-board if you talk like that. This criticism brought to you by “I'm probably beyond help, so somebody might as well get something out of this conversation”.