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[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (19 children)

Dr. Ron Paul Exposes Swine Flu Hoax.

The 1976 swine flu hoax in the US under the Ford admin.

Why The WHO Faked A Pandemic - Forbes (Feb 5, 2010)

The second swine flu hoax.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

Unquestionably, swine flu has proved to be vastly milder than ordinary seasonal flu. It kills at a third to a tenth the rate, according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates. Data from other countries like France and Japan indicate it's far tamer than that.

Indeed, judging by what we've seen in New Zealand and Australia (where the epidemics have ended), and by what we're seeing elsewhere in the world, we'll have considerably fewer flu deaths this season than normal. That's because swine flu muscles aside seasonal flu, acting as a sort of inoculation against the far deadlier strain.

This seems very different from what we're seeing with COVID-19. Don't think this is fake. (A good sign of that: other organisations were reacting before the WHO.)

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

Unquestionably, swine flu has proved to be vastly milder than ordinary seasonal flu.

Unquestionably, because it never happened. It was fake.

A scam to sell billions of dollars of vaccines, which were scrapped or donated to some victimized country.

The "vaccine" was very real, as were the unwanted direct effects ("side-effects" is a euphemism).

Hundreds of people were paralyzed for life, because of the unwanted direct effects of the swine flu "vaccine". Literally.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

And this seems very different from what we're seeing with COVID-19.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

And this seems very different from what we're seeing with COVID-19.

It's the exact same, except worse this time.

  • The illness hasn't been scientifically proven to exist. No evidence of Koch's postulate confirmation.
  • Billions of dollars were paid (in advance for the Coco) for a vaccine (that didn't yet exist).
  • The "vaccine" has already been demonstrated to have extremely serious side-effects, and is therefore inherently unsafe.
  • The "vaccine" will require numerous doses to develop the alleged antibodies (the vaccine goal). The presence of anybodies has is not correlated to reduction in susceptibility to the illness (which is the lie to the public). This also demonstrates that the vaccines are ineffective.

Both cases involve vaccines that are both unsafe, and ineffective.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

No evidence of Koch's postulate confirmation.

From Wikipedia, first paragraph:

These postulates were generated before modern concepts in microbial pathogenesis that cannot be examined using Koch's postulates, including viruses (which are obligate cellular parasites) and asymptomatic carriers.

Is Wikipedia wrong?

(No comment on the vaccine stuff. There are teams I expect to come out with a reliable, non-quack vaccine, but these things take time to do well, so we'd be arguing about different things to each other.)

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

WIKIPEDIA IS PROFOUNDLY AND EXISTENTIALLY COMPROMISED

You and I are proof of that.

I'm not perfect and neither are you.

The WP system has been utterly corrupted and controlled by bigger forces outside WP's control.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

No, I meant specifically. Is it wrong here?

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I don't have enough scientific technical wherewithal to determine what is or is not true in medicine or other things.

What is abundantly clear is this whole COVID-1984 scam is a MASSIVE psyop on MANY MANY levels - including censoring opposing scientists and doctors and throttling any discussion on open discovery and alternative ideas. How can we actually know what's true when there's no free discussion? What are they trying to hide? This is like 9/11 and Holocaust and vaccine skepticism being censored. The truth has no reason to hide.

Is COVID real or not? Time will tell. Is this a grand reshuffle? It's huge, the likes of which we've never seen before, AND I suspect will get MUCH MUCH WORSE (ie. food shortages, bioweapons, detention centers, etc).

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You're right – especially in the US. It's obvious to anyone who looks. That doesn't mean there isn't an actual disease; it'd be a lot harder for them to pull this shit without there actually being a COVID-19. (They'd have to have infiltrated my local hospital, and, and… that'd take a conspiracy of literal millions, the vast majority of whom are willing to let their friends and neighbours die.)

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

The illness hasn't been scientifically proven to exist. No evidence of Koch's postulate confirmation.

I think we need to scientifically prove that this is a new illness.

The fact that this crucial evidence of existence isn't available is strong evidence of a hoax.

Then we can discuss the reasons why fake viruses can't pass Koch's postulate (which is essentially a root cause analysis of what is actually causing any given illness).

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

YES

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think we need to scientifically prove that this is a new illness.

The fact that this crucial evidence of existence isn't available is strong evidence of a hoax.

The gene sequence? It's expensive, but not out of reach if crowd-funded, to partially-sequence the SARS-CoV-2 genome yourself, which you can then compare against published genomes; if you get bits of the SARS-CoV-2 genome then it's SARS-CoV-2, but if you fail to find any of the published genome from somebody who's tested positive then something's up.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, neat. Some people did this with the vaccines. That's a follow-up (of sorts) to Reverse Engineering the source code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine, but that project didn't compare the RNA to the actual vaccines to check that it was really the same.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You need to read /s/Coronavirus and /s/VaccineSkepticism.