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[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

And this seems very different from what we're seeing with COVID-19.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

And this seems very different from what we're seeing with COVID-19.

It's the exact same, except worse this time.

  • The illness hasn't been scientifically proven to exist. No evidence of Koch's postulate confirmation.
  • Billions of dollars were paid (in advance for the Coco) for a vaccine (that didn't yet exist).
  • The "vaccine" has already been demonstrated to have extremely serious side-effects, and is therefore inherently unsafe.
  • The "vaccine" will require numerous doses to develop the alleged antibodies (the vaccine goal). The presence of anybodies has is not correlated to reduction in susceptibility to the illness (which is the lie to the public). This also demonstrates that the vaccines are ineffective.

Both cases involve vaccines that are both unsafe, and ineffective.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

No evidence of Koch's postulate confirmation.

From Wikipedia, first paragraph:

These postulates were generated before modern concepts in microbial pathogenesis that cannot be examined using Koch's postulates, including viruses (which are obligate cellular parasites) and asymptomatic carriers.

Is Wikipedia wrong?

(No comment on the vaccine stuff. There are teams I expect to come out with a reliable, non-quack vaccine, but these things take time to do well, so we'd be arguing about different things to each other.)

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

WIKIPEDIA IS PROFOUNDLY AND EXISTENTIALLY COMPROMISED

You and I are proof of that.

I'm not perfect and neither are you.

The WP system has been utterly corrupted and controlled by bigger forces outside WP's control.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

No, I meant specifically. Is it wrong here?

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I don't have enough scientific technical wherewithal to determine what is or is not true in medicine or other things.

What is abundantly clear is this whole COVID-1984 scam is a MASSIVE psyop on MANY MANY levels - including censoring opposing scientists and doctors and throttling any discussion on open discovery and alternative ideas. How can we actually know what's true when there's no free discussion? What are they trying to hide? This is like 9/11 and Holocaust and vaccine skepticism being censored. The truth has no reason to hide.

Is COVID real or not? Time will tell. Is this a grand reshuffle? It's huge, the likes of which we've never seen before, AND I suspect will get MUCH MUCH WORSE (ie. food shortages, bioweapons, detention centers, etc).

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You're right – especially in the US. It's obvious to anyone who looks. That doesn't mean there isn't an actual disease; it'd be a lot harder for them to pull this shit without there actually being a COVID-19. (They'd have to have infiltrated my local hospital, and, and… that'd take a conspiracy of literal millions, the vast majority of whom are willing to let their friends and neighbours die.)

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Stop arguing for the disease! Who gives a fuck about some old people who were gonna die anyway. That doesn't mean the rest of humanity must suffer. It's a LAME FUCKING EXCUSE FOR TYRANNY.

Their so-called cure (lockdown, masks, totalitarianism, communism, economic collapse, poison vaccines, surveillance, digital IDs, etc) is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much worse than the disease.

They have bought off ALL the politicians, except for a few. People who don't go along get dealt with. The leader of Belarus was offered a $90 million bribe and refused.

Even my own City Of Windsor council members are all playing along and won't let any skepticism come up in council over the fucking phone. Fuckers.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Who's “they”? 'Cause I'm not convinced it's one group of people.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"They" are the ruling class. That is the most important thing, above all the details. This is a class war. They control the corporations, the governments, the banks, and of course the media.

You are quite correct in that "they" have MANY factions and loyalties and relationships, etc. And they are all pushing and pulling and posturing for position to be king of the hill. In easy terms you could argue that there was the Bush Crime Family vs the Clinton Crime Family (including the Obama Crime Family and Biden Crime Family) vs the Trump Crime Family but that's overly simplistic. Sure all the governors and senators beneath them had/have their loyalties and such but it also applies to every industry and their corporations. The whole thing is a complicated mess - and that's just the USA. And I haven't even mentioned the globalists, Zionists, military, think tanks, NGOs, secret agencies, deep state, and the B.I.S. To make a Venn diagram of the mess would be nearly if not completely impossible. WikiSpooks has made a good start but they are limited.

Despite the ruling class fighting for superior positions they agree that we must all be subjected to their oppression and exploitation. The rest are details they fight about in legislation, etc.

Worse is that all these ruling class people live in their bubble. Just as you don't compare your life to that of a prisoner (justified or not) or a Bushman of the Kalahari or a peasant in Asia, so too these people don't care about any other humans. They only compare themselves to their bubble and try to keep up with the Joneses with their 4th house with swimming pools and a yacht or whatever. They're trapped in their status game of misery, greed, and paranoia rather than fulfillment, meaning and purpose - beyond just making lame legacy bullshit with rewards from fellow high-criminals.

You can research the individuals yourself. I care more about the trends and levers of power rather than the details about who built them and pulls them. Those details don't interest me so much as the injustice and manipulations. Next year I want to do more on WikiSpooks to help newbies and normies understand things, including the detailed stuff. Perhaps we can delve into this together - an exploration of how to introduce folks to proper skepticism of the ruling class, our "leaders", "experts", and all authority. Skepticism doesn't mean all are illegitimate - it just means they must earn our trust, not fail us, and admit when they do.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

The illness hasn't been scientifically proven to exist. No evidence of Koch's postulate confirmation.

I think we need to scientifically prove that this is a new illness.

The fact that this crucial evidence of existence isn't available is strong evidence of a hoax.

Then we can discuss the reasons why fake viruses can't pass Koch's postulate (which is essentially a root cause analysis of what is actually causing any given illness).

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

YES

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think we need to scientifically prove that this is a new illness.

The fact that this crucial evidence of existence isn't available is strong evidence of a hoax.

The gene sequence? It's expensive, but not out of reach if crowd-funded, to partially-sequence the SARS-CoV-2 genome yourself, which you can then compare against published genomes; if you get bits of the SARS-CoV-2 genome then it's SARS-CoV-2, but if you fail to find any of the published genome from somebody who's tested positive then something's up.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, neat. Some people did this with the vaccines. That's a follow-up (of sorts) to Reverse Engineering the source code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine, but that project didn't compare the RNA to the actual vaccines to check that it was really the same.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You need to read /s/Coronavirus and /s/VaccineSkepticism.