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[–]ANIKAHirsch 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

So it really indicates that crime has decreased in other racial categories?

[–]Questionable 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

More likely, the results are caused by the success of those pushing the Antifa/BLM agenda, increasing crimes by people of color, creating chaos, and destabilizing our society.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

Most people committing crimes due to BLM/antifa are white.

[–]EuropeanAwakening 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Lol. Stop trying to cope, anti White scum.

[–]Canbot 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

(((white)))

Seriously, Antifa is packed full of jewish people, and the further up the chain you go the more ethnically pure it is. BLM was started by a Jew with a token black person for credibility. The organization is done by jews using encrypted apps. Black people just want to loot, it's the jews who are torching everything. The media would not be backing any mostly white organization, nor would such an organization be causing so much destruction.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Are you seriously saying white people can't cause destruction? You really think they are that weak? History says otherwise.

Antifa are a bunch of spoilt kids who need a smacked arse not some evil racial conspiracy. The main reason they are able to cause destruction is that the police have been hands off with them because their main tacticis to force an overreaction to make the authorities look bad.

The media backs mostly white orgs all the time. This isn't at all unusual.

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

History is written by the victors. You have been brainwashed if you think white people are destructive.

Antifa are communist jews who use stupid white kids as pawns. Most of what you see on the streets are drug addicts, convicts, and washouts. Those who came from wealthy homes were not on the path to be successful. The reason police are hands off is because those police got orders to do that from the jews who run those cities.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Dumb Americans think history started 300 years ago.

In my country white people have mostly been the victors and are happy to admit they are destructive because fear stops people picking fights with you. Romans leveled cities and killed all the people because then the next city would see that and surrender. Competitive victimhood might work in the office or on campus where people have to pretend to give a shit about you but in world politics it will get you walked all over.

[–]MongrelFreeStuff 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Ok

[–]MongrelFreeStuff 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Whitepilled

[–]ANIKAHirsch 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

So I see.. overall crime has increased.

[–]insta 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

If crime went up or down 5% that's really not here nor there. The concern should be a remarkedly small group of people committing a huge proportion of the crime. In fact, not only are we not talking about the issue, we're actively discussing that this demographic is the victim of the police system.

It's seriously laughable that middle-class suburban twats think that hiring some counselors is really going to change anything in regards to these saddening statistics.

[–]BigFatRetard 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

One black speaker I listen to often points out that the welfare system and the family law system and various other government actions have promoted black women not staying with black men who father their children. 56% of kids are born without fathers in the black community.

We know from the data that the nuclear family is actually not a bad thing. In fact, fatherlessness is shockingly bad. 80% of violent rapists were raised by a single mother. An overwhelming amount of violent crime in general is committed by people raised by a single mother.

In the name of protecting people, the government is creating and perpetuating a system that further drags down one ethnic group.

[–]EuropeanAwakening 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

The black crime rate has always been higher than the White crime rate. Race denial is pathetic. Stop it. Blacks commit more crime largely due to biological reasons. End of.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think it is denial to focus on factors that can change. Meanwhile being racist has failed, is doomed to continue to fail, and is thus as ignorant as socialism and communism.

[–]insta 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One black speaker I listen to often points out that the welfare system and the family law system and various other government actions have promoted black women not staying with black men who father their children.

I get that. But be aware that this is mostly just empty basic bitch conservative talking points. This is just an easy throwaway line for conservatives to say "Welfare is the problem" and therefore they can wipe their hands of the issue and move on. They have no follow up plan to address the problem they just simply say "Take away welfare and bada bing bada boom". So-called conservatives like Ben Shapiro will yammer on about utopian nonsense to get around the topic then they will move from areas where their policies have failed and just surround themselves in their own little bubble. These people are pathetic. They preach easy utopian solutions because they never have to deal with the consequences of their failed policies.

This is one of the main reasons I support abortion because it's an actual way to improve society. Yammering about Jesus, welfare, and marriage isn't going to do shit. I'm sorry but it's just not and even worse is that they know that and it's just an excuse for them to not deal with the problem.

[–]ANIKAHirsch 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

What's the solution?

[–]insta 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

In the short term: More cops, crackdown harder, broken windows policing.

Long term: more (free?) accessibility for birth control, condoms. I would even like to see some sort of paid-for sterilization (as in, you get cut a check for sterilizing yourself) and decreased immigration would probably help too.

[–]ANIKAHirsch 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

What evidence do you have that decreasing population would protect us from crime?

I don't agree with your methods. It sounds like you want to sterilize black people...

[–]insta 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

It's not about "decreasing population" it's about trying to prevent children from being born into situations with the odds are stacked against them. It's quite simple. Growing up in a single parent household is a big statistical factor for being a criminal. The less single parent households you have, the less likely the population is to be criminals. It's obviously not a silver bullet but it would for sure decrease crime.

As for the paid sterilization, that's quite obvious, if you value like a $10,000 check more than you value your reproductive ability then you for sure shouldn't be procreating. I get it makes people feel uneasy but welfare queens having endless babies is certainly an issue and we need to tackle it someway.

As for the black people comment, it is a statistical reality that the majority of black children are now born into single parent households. That's just a fact. Whites are up there too buddy, I don't want dumpy white women pumping out babies just because she's white. This policy would basically implicate everyone except NE Asians and Jews because they seem to be the only demographic who can stick their dick in a woman & wear protection.

[–]ANIKAHirsch 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I still don't support your methods. You should focus on incentivizing what you want, instead of de-incentivizing what you don't want. It's more effective.

If children fair better in two parent households, then encourage marriage and domestic partnership. Change alimony laws and make it less easy to divorce.

Any type of government sterilization reeks of eugenics. I can't support that. I can never support that. Don't you know the US government has a history of doing exactly that to our black populations?

If welfare queens are the problem, then end welfare. Make women financially dependent on the men in their life, so they don't desert them.

Before desegregation, more than 70% of black children were born to married parents. That's just another fact.

(https://www.dailysignal.com/2017/09/20/black-family-struggling-not-slavery/)

What the black community needs is strong black men who are willing to stand up for the women and children, and to defend and protect them.

So make sure black men have access to education and gainful employment opportunities. Propagandize them with the virtues of healthy masculinity.

I don't believe anti-natalist beliefs are healthy for any population. I don't admire any family who decides to have few children. In families with one or two children, there is a huge burden on the children to financially support the parents in their old age. That's not fair to them.

Next, I think you'll tell me that you support China's One-Child Policy too.

There is something very sick about a culture that hates its children, and we are bearing the fruits of that.

Are you aware that all forms of hormonal birth control act as abortifacients?

I suggest you read my previous writing on this before we broach this topic:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAMALiberalFeminist/comments/duj6ng/abstinence_is_the_best_way_to_prevent_pregnancy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Furthermore, its a sin for a man to deny giving children to his wife. It demonstrates a lack of love, and it is a particular injustice to her. (You must know that in any family delaying childbirth, it is usually the husband making that decision, and not the wife.)

[–]insta 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You should focus on incentivizing what you want, instead of de-incentivizing what you don't want. It's more effective.

I don't look at it that way. I look at what's the most permanent solution. I think sterilization is the most permanent and more access to abortion and contraceptives is the best way forward.

If children fair better in two parent households, then encourage marriage and domestic partnership. Change alimony laws and make it less easy to divorce.

Marriage rates are already plummeting. Making marriage a more binding agreement is only going to alienate younger generations. Also, this "punish people by making financial penalties (i.e. alimony)" really doesn't impact poor people that much. It might hurt working class or higher but welfare queens pushing out kids won't care if they have yet another debt and their credit rating tanks even further. Once people reach these black hole of welfare there's no real financial punishment you can effectively put on them, it really just hurts the working class & up.

Any type of government sterilization reeks of eugenics. I can't support that. I can never support that.

I get that there's this emotional hurdle that needs to be overcame with my suggestion but I don't think there's anything really wrong with voluntary castration. Obviously we shouldn't be targeting kids or be insidious about it, but if people are willing to give up their reproductive ability for cash and it saves society from having undesirables then I don't really see the downside.

If welfare queens are the problem, then end welfare.

My plan is more likely to happen than yours. There is zero viable way forward to end welfare, if you disagree you're just a utopian or lying.

Before desegregation, more than 70% of black children were born to married parents. That's just another fact.

And a way to bring those numbers back up is to have ready access to abortion and contraceptives. I understand you'd much rather talk about this lofty goal of keeping black men with the mothers but this idea of yours have stalled out over the past 40+ years. I don't think any amount of social engineering is going to work fast enough for us to turn around these numbers.

I don't believe anti-natalist beliefs are healthy for any population. I don't admire any family who decides to have few children.

Again, my propositions are purely coming from the realm of realpolitik and on-the-ground realities. I am really trying to avoid these nebulous goals which are damn near unachievable. I get that you can spit out a whole bunch of stats about marriage rates before segregation but the honest answer is there's no way to get back to those. You're suggestion of simply trying to propagandize men into staying with the mothers is an insurmountable task. This culture is just saturated in negative propaganda and to think we're going to flip it 180 degrees is a fantasy.

There is something very sick about a culture that hates its children, and we are bearing the fruits of that.

I don't hate children. I hate irresponsible parents who raise shit humans being. I am fully aware that abortion is morally wrong and what I am suggesting is morbidly wrong. But the reality is we don't need more dregs of society and we don't need more criminals.

Are you aware that all forms of hormonal birth control act as abortifacients?

No, I'll look into it thanks. I am very pro-contraceptive and anything that helps keep single motherhoods down.

Furthermore, its a sin for a man to deny giving children to his wife. It demonstrates a lack of love, and it is a particular injustice to her.

Again, I have the lens of realpolitik strapped to my face when it comes to this issue. Moralizing and these grand gestures towards traditionalism aren't doing anything.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

not how % works it either decreased in others or increased in blacks

[–]ANIKAHirsch 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those are the two options.