Viral Video of Joe Biden Calling U.S. Troops 'Stupid Bastards' Trends on Twitter

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[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa...we were talking about Biden's pro-war stance and suddenly you being bleating "Four legs good, two legs better!"

Actively alienating our allies.

Man, it's frightening how much you people don't know. They told us to piss off a long time ago. NATO is obsolete. European allies have freeloaded off U.S. defense while rolling up huge trade surpluses at our expense. Those days are over. Trump just said Europeans are going to stop stealing our markets and start paying for their own defense.

Western European countries want to get as far away as possible from US foreign policy and their perpetual wars. NATO has never once defended any European country, all it’s ever done is push them into wars that have absolutely nothing to do with them. Also you should bear in mind that Southern Europe is taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees caused by the US and UK’s messy wars while at the same time refusing to take responsibility for those refugees.

Before Trump: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/nato-publics-reluctant-to-provide-military-aid-to-allies-under-attack/

2018: The cause of US withdrawal enjoys significant support from everyone in Germany. They think the Yanks can't leave soon enough. "They shouldn’t be allowed to fight their battles with Russia here. Far from ensuring Europe’s security, Uncle Sam is much more likely to draw it into a war."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/us-troops-germany-public-opinion-pull-out-nato-summit-merkel-a8442021.html

European intellectuals are nearly unanimous in the conviction that Americans and Europeans no longer share a common “strategic culture.” America is dominated by a “culture of death,” its warlike temperament the natural product of a violent society where every man has a gun and the death penalty reigns.

https://www.hoover.org/research/power-and-weakness

The fact that you know none of this shows how well censorship is working, and it's chilling.

[–]flush_the_turd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

You people? Who are these 'you people'?

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

You people who think that our allies didn't tell us to go to hell a long time ago.

53% of Germans would not intervene to protect a NATO ally. http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/05/23/natos-image-improves-on-both-sides-of-atlantic/pg_2017-05-23-nato-00-06/

NATO’s European Allies Won’t Fight for Article 5. A median of 49 percent of respondents thought their country should not defend an ally. BUT: the majority of Europeans (67 percent) believed the United States must spring to the defense of its allies. What assholes. You maybe see what Trump was talking about now, and what you people have apparently never been exposed to?

[–]flush_the_turd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Why would our NATO allies do anything for the US when all the US does in interfere in everyone else's business? The US is the laughingstock of the world thanks to the incompetent IMPOTUS.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

They'd do something for us because we pay for their defense (ruinously expensive) and have kept the peace in Europe for 75 years, the longest peace ever in European history.

The US is the laughingstock of the world

You're really, really ignorant. I say this without anger, in the base meaning of lacking knowledge. Go ask some Europeans what they think about NATO. They'll tell you exactly what I told you: Yankee go home. They're frightened of a war against Russia, which Biden very well may start. Russia is a nuclear power, by the way.

[–]flush_the_turd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Trump can assassinate Soleimani, and change the story how many times, but that's ok? Bush started a war with the wrong country over 9/11.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-hayes-donald-trump-humiliation-coronavirus_n_5efee5dcc5b6acab284e35b7

But you don't want to see it. Your whole identity is wrapped up in supporting Trump.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

You're not engaging with any of my ideas. You're just going on with some script in your head, where I'm saying things I'm not saying.

Europeans despise American troops and want them gone. They're petrified of war with Russia. They think it's far better to economically engage, that will lead Russia to be peaceful. Agree or disagree? Engage, dammit!

[–]flush_the_turd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Very doubtful Russia will ever be peaceful.

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

That's the American viewpoint! I'm talking about the Europeans! You know, the ones who want us out of Europe?

Do you even know what Nordstream 2 is? If Russia is such a threat, why are they doing it?

You don't, do you?

[–]flush_the_turd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The we should get out. Let them worry about their problems. How would I know why they're doing it? I'm not a politician.