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[–]IridescentAnaconda 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So what? A lot of people have "occultist practices" (in fact, even right-leaning individuals such as myself) but simply don't blather on about them in detail. I'm more worried about Marxism than hoodoo or santeria (or asatru for that matter).

[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

No, that's not accurate. Most people don't know anything about the occult, but they would be against such tenets as "might makes right". Which is essentially the foundation of the occult since most of their beliefs inherently pit people against each other, forcing a resolution through conflict and resulting in the stronger party winning.

For example the occult teaches that everything is relevant, especially morality and justice and even truth. In other words there is no objective truth or morality, just people's opinions. And when two people disagree the stronger one gets their way. It is literally an ideology based on tyranny, subjugation, and violence.

This is not what most people support. This is what broken people support. People who have been hurt and want to hurt others. People who are depressed and want to watch the world burn. People who resent the world because they are failures.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think you are misinformed about the occult. Certainly some people approach it that way (might makes right). There are others that view it as a means to achieve spiritual ends.

But keep in mind that the "might makes right" moral perspective is evident in as many materialist endeavors as occult You don't think advanced military weaponry and data-driven propaganda techniques aren't founded on the principle of might makes right? The reality is that survival in this particular plane of existence entails competition and violence (eating is ultimately a form of violence), whatever tech you use to achieve your ends.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some people approach Islam as a means to be pious and humble and "achieve spiritual ends". That does not change the fact that Islam teaches incredibly violent things. Islam doesn't simply say gays are bad, it says you should kill them. It doesn't say you should not stray from the religion, it says you should be murdered in cold blood if you do. It calls on it's followers to do these heinous things. Just because not all Muslims do them does not change the fact that Islam teaches it, and even requires it. Just because some occultists don't follow the teachings doesn't mean the occult is not about that.

So no, I am not misinformed just because there are people who claim to be occultists and don't follow the teachings. All relativism degenerates into conflict. Without the ability to say that one person is wrong and the other right there can not be a peaceful resolution. And giving examples of other theologies, or other areas where people degenerate in this way does not change the fact that this is what the occult teaches. It doesn't excuse the occult to say others do it too. It is simply a nasty belief system that can only create a violent, unjust, tyrannical and oppressive society.