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[–]Druullus 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

He's still the lesser evil!

[–]wrongthink 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

How sad is that

[–]Aureus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let's look at Biden's record:

And that isn't even mentioning Biden's support for the Iraq War, NAFTA, the Patriot Act, and his insufferably woke policy positions including consideration for racial reparations.

Don't be suckered by stupid memes into not voting for a candidate who is 1000 times better on every single one of these issues than Biden, and is actually willing to stand against Critical Race Theory rather than openly promoting it.

Feel free to repost this rebuttal whenever this BS meme is reposted.

[–]zyxzevn 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Don't Settle for the Lesser of Two Evils.

Vote for the GREATEST

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Ṗ̰̺̊hͮ̈́'ng̝̤ͩ̿lu͐ͧi ̺̌mgl͈w'n͈̣̅͊á̮͖͓̿͒f̰͇̌ͥh̠͍ C͐ͥthulh̗̥̜̎̎ͦu̹̜ ̦͇̩R̪̭͚̍ͫ̋'ͤl̿ẙ͙̱̭̏ͩeh ͈ͭw͂̐͐g̞a̟̒h̤͈̲̅̒̌'n̙͗ā̱̦ͯg̥̲͓l ̺ͪf̲̦ͦͣh̽ta̞gn.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

USA! USA! USA!

(Under Israel and Cthulhu!)

[–]suckitreddit 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

This is just stupid, libtard shit. First, the waived fines for banks resulted in lower banking costs for consumers. Second, the national debt increased because of the pandemic, which was caused by China. Third, the ban on bump stocks was not enforced, although this criticism remains valid. But it was done in response to school shootings. Fourth, he built the fucking wall. What do you want? Did you really think that Mexico, a poorer country, would cough up the cash? Fifth, this is just dumb. He bowed down to Saudia Arabia? How? He didn't.

[–]Jesus 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Great debunking with fallacies. Where's that wall? Trump has let in more immgrants than Obama, increased drone bombing, provided billions in arms to Saudi Arabia and is a Likudnik lackey, the same Likudniks who did 9/11.

You vote for Trump, you commit treason. You vote for Biden, you commit treason.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This exactly. Vote for the newly founded National Justice Party.

[–]EuropeanAwakening 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Spread NJP ideas.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't know that, Trump is killing even more people with drones!? Obama loved him some drone assassinations.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

^

[–]FediNetizen 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

First, the waived fines for banks resulted in lower banking costs for consumers.

The correct punishment here was to send the employees involved in the scheme to jail, but the Obama administration set a precedent that bankers shouldn't be held responsible for their crimes, so instead they got fines. And those fines were waved because Trump is going along with the environment of regulatory capture.

Second, the national debt increased because of the pandemic, which was caused by China.

When Trump took office in January 2017, the national debt was about $20 Trillion. When COVID-19 first started blowing up in China in January 2020, the national debt was about $23.5 trillion. Under the Trump administration, national debt had increased significantly even before the pandemic, despite his claims of a strong economy. It has increased more, because of the pandemic, but it had also increased under his administration before the pandemic.

Third, the ban on bump stocks was not enforced, although this criticism remains valid. But it was done in response to school shootings.

I'm probably being pedantic here, because I think I know what you meant, but it was done in response to the outcry over the Paddock shooting, which wasn't a school shooting. This does highlight how this meme is really meant to appeal to conservatives, because it would mainly be conservatives that are upset over the bump stock ban.

Fourth, he built the fucking wall.

He...didn't though? You can reasonably blame political opposition here, but there are still only walls along sections of the southern border. He didn't "build the fucking wall", certainly not the one that he promised on the 2016 campaign trail.

Fifth, this is just dumb. He bowed down to Saudia Arabia? How? He didn't.

He ran cover for SA when it was discovered that they had assassinated and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi. Instead of being held responsible, the crown prince MBS was allowed to fade into the backdrop thanks to Trump. And then SA bought $8 billion worth of weapons from us, and Trump just let the brutal killing slide.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Fuck, I'd let a murderer slide for 8bn too.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Great comment FEDI!

[–]HegeMoney 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Fourth, he built the fucking wall. What do you want?

Unfortunately, I suspect the wall is intended to keep Americans in.

I'm anticipating a tragic irony where persecuted conservatives are caught behind the wall they were fooled into supporting.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That Chinese lab work was started in the USA, and continued to be funded by the USA in Wuhan. It's a team effort and each nation has limited plausible deniability.

Trump and Saudi Arabia both bow down before Zionist Israel.

[–]Aureus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are totally correct. I did research on what Biden plans for these issues and he is far worse on every single one. You may enjoy this post about it.

[–]Nightjar 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

The Dems have gone so far left that Trump, who is left of center, is now considered far right. Hats off the dems, they got exactly what they wanted.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Lol, no they have not. They are neoliberal corporatists.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Dems are globalist neoliberal corporatists. Reps are globalist trotskyist neocon corporatists. Trump was supposed to be a change but turned out to be just another sheep who licks Zion boots.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, to your first sentence. And again, yes to your second sentence, although the GOP are not ALL trotskyites. The ZioCons (Zionist neoconservatives; neither new or conservative) were originally trotskyite communists before switching over to the GOP during the counter-revolutiom days when liberals started to attack Israel and Zionism. The ZioCons thus expropriate and utilize revolution on their enemy states, that means Israel's enemies, under the guise of spreading democracy in neology only by using powerful militaries via their think tanks such as PNAC. Their doctrine has an analogously mutual goal/overlap with other foreign policy agendas such as the profit driven military industrial complex and even neoliberal dems.

But the republicans are merely the radical republicans of yesteryear who push permanent public debt and war.

[–]Aureus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. And looking up Biden's stances on every one of these issues, he is far worse than Trump.

For example: the meme complains about taxes being used to fund the wall (even though Trump's overall tax cut means you're paying less in taxes anyway). Meanwhile, Biden has promised to stop building the wall day one and use American taxpayer money to fund free healthcare and college for illegal immigrants. Hmm, if I genuinely care about low taxes and border security I wonder who I'd pick...

Whoever made this meme has really skewed priorities. Not to mention that Kamala is even worse than Biden.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Pay for the wall? What wall?

[–]Jesus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That imaginary wall whilst Trump lets in more immgrants than Obama.

MIGA

[–]Aureus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]zyxzevn 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

He did also bow to Israel. Funny that you forgot that.

And yet these are the best 2 candidates that the USA has to offer.
Really makes you think about the wonderful Democracy of the USA..


There are some major concerns with Biden's policies:
1) censorship.
2) fake and corrupt science.
3) starting of some more wars.
4) who will take his place when he breaks down.
5) MORE fake news.
6) Identity politics.
7) More Monopolies. 8) Also added trillions to the national debt.
9) Would enforce a lockdown, which is anti-science.
10) Also friends with banks, like Obama
11) HUNGER lots of HUNGER, because farms are locked down.
12) More Burning, Looting and Murder. Who thinks that these riots help blacks?

Then there are problems with Biden himself.
1) He is corrupt (Ukraine, etc)
2) He is creepy with children and women.
3) He seems very racist to me.
4) His work as vice president is not something good.

There are also major problems with the media and many of the scientists.
Any news or article published by CNN, NYT, Washington Post, MSNBC, Huffpost, etc,
are containing so much propaganda that Stalin turns around in his grave.
The "fact checkers" are all propaganda spreaders, like the war pushing Atlantic Council.
To distinguish between real news and propaganda I made a system:
How to investigate the Truth

The scientists dealing with the Covid-19 crisis have completely lost their minds too, and are basing their publications and ideas on political bias instead of well tested facts.
The most obvious one: They tell us that demonstrating for BLM does not spread the disease, but protesting the lockdowns does.
There are far more lies, which is why I started /s/CorruptScience to categorize some.

This same problem was already visible during 9/11,
where we were all told that Iraq was involved and had WMDs.
So we killed millions and destroyed their country.
And created Isis to destroy Syria as well.
Then invaded Afghanistan to harvest poppies and lithium.
All these things were fully supported by the same propaganda media that we have today.

Solutions

Real democracy

What the USA needs are more parties that compete with each other, in a natural way. Socialists need a party, anarchists (kind of), religious parties, capitalistic parties.
Even small parties might contribute.

They will need to discuss with each other what would be best for them all. They can also keep each other in check.

Currently the US have a one-party system, that switches by name each few years.
This is like the system that they have in China..
The parties often misuse their monopoly to make it harder for the other party, or to push legislation that no-body wants, but is good for the profits.

Money

The lobbying and money-politics needs to stop.
The monopolies need to be split up.
I would suggest a major tax on their monopolized products and profit that becomes far less for each independent competitor.
So they will need competition to earn money.

The media needs to become fair again and do real news, instead of staged propaganda.
For this the news reporting needs to be open for independent journalists that verify their reporting.
CNN and MSNBC needs to be rebranded as entertainment instead of news.

No more protecting the Rich and Companies

Also the law system needs to be changed.
Rich people and companies are almost free to do any crimes, especially if they do it in other countries.
Yet, poor people have big problems with the law for small problems.

And legalize drugs and prostitution. That stops the income of the big criminals.
Even gives some extra tax income.

How to Vote for me

You can't. I live in the EU.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This same problem was already visible during 9/11, where we were all told that Iraq was involved and had WMDs.

It was so obvious at the time they were blowing smoke up our asses. I remember watching Colin Powell throw away his reputation on live TV as he addressed the UN. He looked so crestfallen as he lied. I don't know how anyone could have watched that and not been instantly suspicious.

[–]Nemesis 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

I don't even know why trash memes like this are allowed on saidit's major subs. The whole point of the website is elevated discussion, not lazy strawman memes from facebook

[–]Aureus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Totally agree. This should be in /s/memes if anything, although it's such bullshit I'd be happy if it wasn't on the site at all.

Edit: I made a researched rebuttal to this meme you might find useful.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

^

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

If they don't want Trump to win they have to provide a better alternative. It really is that simple.

Most people don't want to vote for Trump but feel like their only alternative is doing that or abstaining. This is because for all the top Democrats' efforts to paint themselves as the serious, safe party they are so far removed from ordinary people they in fact completely insane and every sensible person can see it. It's not even a matter of political disagreement, they have lost touch with the basics of reality.

Does anyone remember that half a day after the last election when articles came out from democrates saying "maybe we should listen to the working classes, they have legitimate issues with globalised capitalism" and "maybe calling everyone who disagrees with us racists wasn't the vote winner we thought it would be." Then within 24 hours that all got shut down and replaced by "No, we were right, everyone else is racist and we are good." and even the sensible Dems who wrote the first articles got dragged as racist sympathisers. And I imagine we'll see exactly the same thing after the next election with the Dems again completely confused over what went so wrong and not knowing how to fix it.

[–]Aureus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If they don't want Trump to win they have to provide a better alternative. It really is that simple.

Bingo. I fully agree that Trump isn't perfect, but he is light-years ahead of the competition. Check out my post here for Biden's far worse stances on all the issues mentioned by OP's deceptive meme.

I can't take anyone seriously who would say "Yeah, I'm a staunch activist against illegal immigration and all for border security. But even though I paid less net taxes due to Trump's tax cut, some of those taxes went to building the wall, therefore #fuckDrumpf #ImWithJoe". Makes zero sense.

Trump is by far the best candidate here. Not voting for him is retarded.

Does anyone remember that half a day after the last election when articles came out from democrates saying "maybe we should listen to the working classes, they have legitimate issues with globalised capitalism" and "maybe calling everyone who disagrees with us racists wasn't the vote winner we thought it would be." Then within 24 hours that all got shut down and replaced by "No, we were right, everyone else is racist and we are good."

Yup. It was a little surreal. There was about a day or so of self-reflection, and then it went immediately to blaming Russia with zero proof.

[–]Trajan 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, because Trump is short on scrutiny? Democrats and the media have practically stalked the guy, and prominent conservatives in the media have not been shy to call him out when he’s wrong. On aggregate people are happy with his results, certainly preferring that over a demented hair sniffer and his racist authoritarian friend.

[–]Aureus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well said. Most of the criticisms in the meme are BS, and Biden is way worse on everything brought up. Kind of seems like the meme is designed to manipulate.

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the link. While I’m sure there are Trump zealots, I suspect there’s pretty serious projection. They’re the ones obsessed with the man as evidenced by the endless nonsensical slurs and being happy to vote for anybody that isn’t Trump.

Most of us are happy with the results and absolutely not wanting the party of death to whitey to get into office.

[–]Feldheld 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Lets be even more honest: if anything the last 4 years have shown that voting alone wont save the USA from sliding into the shitter. The degeneration of the society is way too advanced. Corrupt leftists dominate almost every part of governmental or societal power, most importantly education, the deep state, the justice system, the media, entertainment, and social media. They know theyre in charge and they show no hesitation to abuse their power like a 3rd world regime.

The thing is, the situation isnt only caused by degenerate leftists it is just as much caused by cowardly and complacent conservatives. How can it be that it took Trump 4 fucking years to notice the implementation of Critical Race Theory in schools and government agencies right under his nose? It must have taken a huge amount of conservative witnesses to remain silent or even complicit.

[–]sproketboy 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Compared to what though?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Compared to Obama who was a neocon but at least signed the Iran deal, something I agreed with.

All of them are godless.

[–]Aureus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Compared to this. Biden is 1000x worse on every issue. This anti-Trump meme is BS.

[–]sproketboy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

u/Drewski should see that

[–]Aureus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sure he'll see it eventually, just be sure to upvote and comment

[–]Drewski[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Posted this response there:

I agree that Biden is worse in many ways, and you won't see me posting any pro-Biden content. My intention was to point out some of Trump's flaws and open up some discussion, which I think was successful.

I have many friends that will be voting for Trump in November and I understand their perspective, but I personally cannot morally justify voting for a president that has infringed on the Second Amendment (and wants to go further, through red flag laws, silencer bans and other things he's suggested), increased the welfare state, massively increased military budgets, increased the national debt, bailed out corporations (again), elected blatant neocons and warmongers to his cabinet, increased tariffs and other protectionism, and whose administration has been more hostile to whistleblowers even than Obama's.

The "lesser of two evils" is still an evil, and I won't validate a corrupt system by voting for one of two establishment candidates.

[–]soyboy77 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

The Dems should have their own (blue) cap with a nebulous aspirational slogan. Any good ones come to mind?

[–]Lahontan 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Fuck America

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeshua said all nations will fall. America wasn't founded in God.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

"If you don't vote for us we'll call you a racist"

That seems to be the slogan they are running with, again.

Meanwhile the black vote for Trump is now going past 20% compared to 8% last time.

[–]Trajan 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Make America Racist Again?

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"I'm With Bumbling Biden" ?

[–]iDontShift 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

he is also seeking a 3rd term. it was all around years ago.

blah blah. deserves 3rd term dems stole this one

[–]nolocus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The spin on this post sparked some wacky comments! Can't wait till the November 4th riots and another social media melt-down.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Why did TheFreeThoughtProject.com ignore how he bows down to Israel?