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    [–]magnora7 15 insightful - 8 fun15 insightful - 7 fun16 insightful - 8 fun -  (14 children)

    along with being the first president in 4 decades not to get us into a new war,

    Amen to that. He's done good and bad, but this is the best of what he's done. I applaud the way he has been throwing bones to the MIC to keep them satisfied spending-wise (dropping some of their expensive bombs on empty fields), while not actually engaging in many new attacks, and no new wars. George W Bush was one of the worst presidents we've had in a long time, he started 2 wars costing trillions, and killing almost half a million Iraqis. People forget how awful this was and lose a sense of proportion when complaining about Trump

    [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (13 children)

    He has continued to increase military spending and arms trafficking nearly into the trillions. He is a warmonger. Anyone who cannot see that the US continues to fund proxy armies in the name of geopolitics which is just another means of starting war is ignorant. They only country left is IRAN. And unlike IRAQ and Afghanistan, which were destroyed on a Likudnik 5th column ZioCon false flag of whom Trump is good friends with many of the perps,. Iran is much different. They are powerful and they are not going to destroy Iran, yet, at least, for this could have terrible ramifications on the US, Israel and Europe.

    /u/porthos

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (12 children)

    Yes!

    Bush was terrible.

    Obama took the wars from 2 up to 7 or 9 wars, depending how you define it. Plus he did the NDAA-2013 and a bunch of other terrible shit. He also increased the drone bombing by a monster load.

    Trump has already out bombed Obama. I will never see him as better or relief from anything. He's already a terrible person and terrible on many other things. He is not playing 3D chess - THEY are playing 3D chess, including all the think tanks, opinion pols, etc etc etc. They manage him, what he does, and all the strategies in fine detail. They cannot allow him to be tarnished with a war - at least until the second half of his second term as a lame ineffective duck with nothing to lose.

    Worse, you get fools like ChipIt who think Trump has legitimately tried to pull troops back, etc etc etc but the MIC won't let him. Political THEATER folks!

    Not just Iran. Venezuela, Syria, and North Korea, not to mention China and Russia. NK is a joke, so it's for show. Trump is in bed with the Red Jewish Mafiya so they won't go there. The US is in bed with China, but for appearances, economics, etc etc etc the Zionists puppet masters might actually kick one off with them, but I don't see that happening until the next POTUS at least. I think the region around Iran will need to be weakened and fortified further before they kick off with it. Venezuela and Syria are big mystery boxes to me, and I suspect to the MIC. Of course I could be wrong as there's nothing like brute force from a brute desperate to seem like he's being effective in "saving" the economy he collapsed by robbing another nation's resources (wouldn't be the first time).

    IMO.

    " They are not going to destroy Iran, yet, at least, for this could have terrible ramifications on the US, Israel and Europe. "

    Very much. It could set off a greater World War between the West and East affecting billions, much more than just distant political theater and "smaller" wars affecting millions.

    [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    Trump has already out bombed Obama.

    But he's for peace! /s

    He is not playing 3D chess.

    According to Fox news, Trump is playing 5D intergalactic dreidel.

    Worse, you get fools like ChipIt who think Trump has legitimately tried to pull troops back, etc etc etc but the MIC won't let him. Political THEATER folks!

    Chipit shills for many ZioCons that are not hard to pick out and his attack on many users who have great content, especially those who were Muslim, or his attack on my posts when I mention Neocons, calling me mentally insane, crazy and that I need meds illustrates where his loyalty lies.

    Similarly, I wasted my time with /u/ uselessaether, who is not here anymore. He hated when I brought up ZioCons and would always blame Jesuits in response. The problem is I found his true intentions on Poal.co (Zio Poal(e) group, lol) randomly when he posted that the US should detain, imprison and deport all Muslims. How nice!

    Trump has legitimately tried to pull troops back, etc etc etc but the MIC won't let him. Political THEATER folks!

    Perception management. They have to create as many conflicting narratives as possible to divide the people and create partisanship. I remember a user named ssdaivs75 who showed that on twitter there was a crazy psychological operation happening where politicians, pick anyone, would post some tweet about a bill they were for or an ideology they stood by. That tweet would be seen by all the population in the eastern half of the country, whilst on the western half of the country that same tweet would be of its opposite meaning. I suppose this was an intelligence operation.

    Not just Iran. Venezuela, Syria, and North Korea, not to mention China and Russia.

    Yes, of course, There is now little mention of Venezuela or Syria. And of course, the trump war-hawks are hard at work, using their proxies and mercenaries and financial terrorism.

    Trump is in bed with the Red Jewish Mafiya so they won't go there.

    Yup, Fitzpatrick Informerhas proven this to me. Trump is connected to Russian Jewish oligarchs, Chabadniks, the KGB and Mossad. Remember, many of the neocons and Zioons who infest the US government came from Russia.

    The US is in bed with China, but for appearances, economics, etc etc etc the Zionists puppet masters might actually kick one off with them.

    Again, also agree. Earthlinggblog.wordpress.com has proven this. China wants to open up its market and America for China via legalese. That is, making all persons fictional corporations. China is not there yet, but the elites are welcoming it.

    " They are not going to destroy Iran, yet, at least, for this could have terrible ramifications on the US, Israel and Europe. "

    They need to, like you say fortify military installations and camps, and weaken Iran via proxies and revolution before they can intervene militarily.

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    LOL and LOL

    Interesting about about the users.

    Your perception management thing is insightful.

    Yes, just because we don't hear about Venezuela nor Syria doesn't mean they aren't at this moment orchestrating the next stages.

    It's hard to be a billionaire and NOT be connected to every nation, including Russia, and their corruption in leadership.

    I don't quite understand the America/China legalese thing. I know about persons as corporate properties. Are you saying China hasn't incorporated all their citizens? And are you also saying that China has armies of lawyers to pry open America?

    Part of that Israel-US-Saudi fortification against Iran constitutes the Yemin conflict to control the seas. I don't know enough about it to know if it has only started, is half way, or they are almost done - at least so far as their minimal foothold for the next stages whatever they may be.

    [–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

    "out bombed Obama"? Sauce?

    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

    /u/JasonCarswell /u/magnora7

    First off, Jason, you mentioned that you did not understand the legalese of making China's citizens corporations, here, read this:

    https://earthlinggb.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/capitalizing-china/

    ^ ^ ^ I rarely say this but I have said it before I admit on one or two occasions (because they have been) but this is one of the most important blogs I have ever written and I hope you read every last damned word of it and take it in…slowly. PLEASE share this widely and get LAZY people to READ IT!


    Here is a condensed version:

    https://earthlinggb.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/capitalizing-china-condensed/


    He also did great work on 9/11 and the MH370 PsyOp:

    https://earthlinggb.wordpress.com/category/911/

    Also, use searX instances, specifically ones that do not use metasearches of duckduckgo (owned by a Weinberg), Google, or Bing, to search for controversial stuff; duckduckgo has gone down the tubes:

    https://search.disroot.org/


    As for sources /u/SaidOverRed:

    Trump’s Drone Kill Rate 80 Times Greater than Under Bush

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/trumps-drone-kill-rate-80-times-greater-than-under-bush/237075/

    It took Trump only seven months to surpass the number of civilian deaths in foreign nations that occurred during Obama’s entire eight-year presidency, according to non-profit monitoring group Airwars by Whitney Webb

    ...it has been Trump’s dangerous expansion of the drone war that has authoritatively destroyed any illusion that Trump would genuinely put “America first” — and put an end to dangerous military operations abroad that only serve to exacerbate the horrendously bungled War on Terror. For instance, after gutting the already lax regulations on drone strikes and giving the CIA free rein to kill whomever they choose, it took Trump only seven months to surpass the number of civilian deaths that occurred during Obama’s entire eight-year presidency, according to non-profit monitoring group Airwars.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/cia-given-new-authority-conduct-drone-strikes-donald-trump-rolls/

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-has-already-killed-more-civilians-obama-us-fight-against-isis-653564

    The covert drone war program, first created under George W. Bush, was a key part of the War on Terror [started via the 9/11 pretext orchestrated by the ZioCons, i.e., the neconservatives, Chabadniks and Likudniks] whereby terror suspects could be targeted and killed covertly. However, under his presidency, only 57 strikes were conducted in Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen, with between 384 and 807 civilians killed. The program was greatly expanded during the Obama administration, which conducted 563 strikes in those same countries. Now, under Trump, drone strikes targeting these countries have skyrocketed.

    https://www.rt.com/news/417397-yemen-drone-strikes-trump-saudi/

    In 2017, the U.S. bombed Yemen 127 times alone, compared to 32 strikes conducted in 2016. In Pakistan and Somalia, the number of strikes have also increased under Trump. In Somalia, for instance, 34 drone strikes were conducted last year, the same number as all U.S. drone strikes conducted in Somalia from 2001 to 2016.

    Trump’s drone assassination rate is now eight times that of Obama. Obama’s, in turn, was 10 times that of Bush, making

    Trump’s drone kill rate a whopping 80 times higher than that of Bush. In other words, Trump is on track to be a record-breaking war criminal.

    However, the problem is bigger than just the innocent lives claimed as a result of the “covert” drone war. Civilian deaths resulting from U.S. airstrikes in Iraq, Libya and Syria reached between 3,923 to 6,102 last year under Trump. This startling figure marks a massive increase from civilian deaths reported during the Obama administration, which was responsible for between 2,298 to 3,398 civilian deaths during Obama’s eight years in office.

    Ninety-eight percent collateral damage


    To quote Webb:

    U.S. drone strikes kill far more civilians than supposed militants. Shockingly, more than 80 percent of those killed have never even been identified and the CIA’s own documents have shown that they are not even aware of who they are killing — avoiding the issue of reporting civilian deaths simply by naming all those in the strike zone as enemy combatants.

    Trump’s dramatic reversal, played out over the first year of his presidency, is not very surprising given that his “anti-war” credentials touted on the campaign trail were falsified. For instance, Trump claimed to have opposed both the invasion of Iraq – resulting in over a million dead – and the invasion of Libya, which has resulted in a failed state now plagued by slavery and terrorism. In fact, however, he supported both of these disastrous invasions, even supporting the deployment of U.S. ground troops in Libya to remove Muammar Gaddafi from power.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-is-a-magical-foreign-policy-realist/

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/sex-slavery-isis-illegal-arms-trade-libya-plunged-failed-state-us-invasion/227478/

    The ruse of Trump’s anti-interventionism was painted in disappearing ink along his campaign trail, giving way to a presidency that has no qualms about leaving thousands of innocent civilians dead in its wake. He just wants his ignorant base to think he is anti-war.

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/tag/drone-strikes/

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/yemen-reports-first-us-drone-strikes-under-trump/224287/

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/AP_17022520985302-1600x900.jpg

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/trump-gave-cia-secret-new-authority-launch-drone-strikes/225882/

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/u-s-drone-strikes-gone-432-since-trump-took-office/225673/

    U.S. Drone Strikes Have Gone Up 432% Since Trump Took Office

    As for the increasing "antisemitism" laws being put into law, we have to ALWAYS remember that the Likudniks and ZioCons are some of, if not, the most anti-Semitic people to ever exist in this world. The Palestinians and Arabs are Semitic people. The people behind this intervention are pro-Israel ZioCons and the MIC and defense and weapons contractors hoping to make a profit off of keeping the war machine going. Why do I bring certain Jews into this? Because they were behind 9/11 and initiating this "Global War on Terror" charade.

    I'm a Christian and you’re either a Jew or you’re a christian.

    eartthlinggb's wordpress makes this clear:

    There is NO SUCH THING as Judeo-christian. It’s a total misnomer but it is one for a very specific purpose.

    JUDAISM DOES NOT EVEN RECOGNIZE CHRIST AS A PROPHET NEVERMIND A GOD OR MESSIAH! ISLAM, AT LEAST, VENERATES JESUS CHRIST AS ONE OF THE MAIN PROPHETS, JUST NOT THE LAST ONE WHICH. TO THEM, IS MOHAMMED.

    Obviously, when Islam only came on the scene in 700 A.D., there would have to be a good reason for it otherwise they would just be a people who followed one of the other existing religions! So a new prophet was absolutely necessary BUT they don’t consider Jesus as a blasphemer and a false prophet (as do the jews), so what you don’t understand is beyond me!

    ISLAM, like Christianity, does not believe in USURY! Judaism does! What the hell does it take to get these simple facts through your goddamned head and the penny to drop?

    End Quote

    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

    Not one person that asked for sources cared to write back to me. Stop calling Trump anti-War, please. It makes you look very ignorant. There are all different kinds of wars, 7 in fact, which the US is still funding and exploiting.

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    You don't understand. It doesn't make them look very ignorant. They ARE very ignorant.

    [–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Well since you seem to be in the know, are the stats for 'civilians' counting ALL persons not active enemy combatants with no exceptions: ie, a bomb accidentally killing Osama bin Laden's cook instead of him would count as a 'civilian death' even though he's a true believer in the murders Osama had carried out and was actively helping them come to fruition?

    [–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    oof I go on vacation for just a few days...

    I was just about to thank you for sauce.

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    You can still do it

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Saved! /u/ChipIt should read that.

    " Jason, you mentioned that you did not understand the legalese of making China's citizens corporations "

    No, I said I didn't know what you specifically were referring to. Your grammar was ambiguous. Good info though.

    Also, /s/Technocracy/comments/6ci6/whitney_webb_interview_2020_election_chaos_being/ covers some of the China/US plans.

    How does searX fair on searching through SaidIt?

    I'm neither Jewish nor Christian, though some of my family are still Protestant and a few are actually Jewish (Uncle-in-law and cousins, though technically not if the mother needs to be). I'm an atheist zenxistentialist.

    Even I recognize Christ as a prophet, even if I think he's primarily fiction, like Robin Hood and King Arthur.

    Unfortunately Christianity under the Zionist banks allows usury.

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Jimmy Dore is always going on about it. If he's wrong I'd sure like to know about it, because I don't want to be repeating misinfo. IMO, he seems legit on these things. I'm more bothered about what he doesn't report on.