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[–]jelliknight 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

When people said "we'll police our own communities" they didn't mean "we'll start shooting our own people down in the street without justification".

I can see how you'd be confused since that's the only sort of 'policing' you have at the moment, but that's not what the word is supposed to mean.

[–]Ergu 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

"without justification" is an exaggeration. He is arguably defending himself in all three cases. We'll see if new information comes to light that proves the existing justification false, but you jump to a hasty and probably dishonest conclusion here.

[–]Trajan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

This is the sensible approach. I lean towards supporting him, but I'm still preferring to see what emerges before I category hold him up as a hero. Right now the evidence leans in his favour, and I'll admit my view is coloured by the supposed victims consisting of a violent child molester, a violent domestic abuser, and a violent political extremist with a conviction for a firearms offence who apparently later expressed regret at not using his illegal handgun to kill the kid.

[–]bagano1 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

He waited until he absolutely had no choice but to shoot at these guys. They were looking to kill him. Notice the media isn't writing any glorious memorials of these guys in the news. They know he will be acquitted. That lawyer took his case knowing it was easy money.

[–]Trajan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. He handled those encounters like a pro. If he were panicking, as some have claimed, there’d have been bullets sprayed all over the place.

[–]Klondike 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Even if it's ruled self-defense and all charges dropped, I don't think we should consider him a hero. He's a stupid kid who was trying to play GI Joe and valued property over his own life and the lives of others. This flavor of gungho firearms ownership is not something we should be encouraging.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Tell that to the cops - or better to their superiors who don't properly train them in deescalation tactics nation wide but instead buy them virtual tanks to wage a stupid drug/terrorist/covid war.

Bring back the friendly neighbourhood police man.

[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Could be he was. I suppose we'll have to see what comes out of the investigation.

[–]King_Brutus 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

without justification

So getting attacked isn't justification enough?

[–]copenseethe 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"without justification" Watch the videos. It is clear that he is defending himself from a violent mob.