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[–]yayblueberries 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

I've been saying they should be shipped to North Korea or some other communist country with how much they love talking about how we should all forfeit our rights and do things for the "greater good." That is so communistic that they really do not belong in an individualistic, capitalistic country such as the United States.

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You think the US is individualistic? I mean, maybe all the little groups are, but the vast majority of the US has merged and assimilated with some group and group-thinking. As a young person, I see very little true individualism occurring on a large-scale. If anything, it's been pushed out and replaced with mediocre personalities and dogmas.

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, I do see this in the younger people, but also in the 30-50 age range, at least in my area. I can accept and understand things are different elsewhere.

    [–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Your own culture feels like wet feels to a fish.

    You don't think the US us individualistic because you are immersed in that culture so it just feels normal. You'd have to go and live in a collectivist culture for a while to tell the difference.

    Also most cultures are made up of opposite extremes not just single traits. The UK is highly individualist but also very nanny state. This seems contradictory but actually one causes the other. Because each individual life is considered more precious than the welfare of the group people become super risk adverse. Any single life lost to normal risky things is a made out to be a huge tragedy which someone must be blamed and shamed for.

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    I can see where you are coming from.

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    I find my life full of the same observation. It makes sense due to some level of conformism is required for a civilization yet, what I have observed is a media driven game to get everyone to pick a side/group. These groups are all based in the concept of inclusiveness by exclusion. If you are part of my group you must hate these other groups. Jews are chosen/inclusive anyone not Jewish is excluded. Same for the other western and eastern religions. Pop culture is a funny one that changes the objects worshiped as the pop culture memetics slides over generations. Tell me everyone did you really NEED or WANT that iPhone 10? I am using a 5c and it works great. Do you need all the bells and whistle they put on these hand held computers? Luckily I do not need the mental dopamine pump these devises/ apps create.

    What I see these days with covid and the cornucopia of choices of sides/groups to choose from is conquered. I don't care what side a person chooses it is only a side and no one side is going to win. If the elite get all the proletariat to fight each other they don't need to lift a stick. I'm watching Seattle to see what happens there, because they will implode or the national guard is going to make a lesson out of them for the rest of us to watch like the wars in the Middle East.

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    We should exchange them for the Hong Kong protestors. These tools would get to learn what communism is really like, and we'd get some people who could actually appreciate the freedoms we have.