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[–]america_first_1776 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

If you're willing to suck cock to get to the top, you're willing to lie to get to the top too.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe even, dare I say, both at the same time!

[–]foxhound 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (56 children)

more bullshit spin from the cuckpublicans

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I have a problem with cuckpublicans, but it's not bullshit spin if she's a liar.

Kamala Harris is the worst choice for VP, just like Joe Biden is the worst choice for 2020 tied for worst choice Trump 2020.

((("They"))) have offered no good choice. The system is rigged. And we are ruled by totalitarian bullshit the INTENTIONALLY crashes the economy, can't give people life or death healthcare but bails out the billionaires and corporations, escalates the MANY wars and riots, and pretends like this COVID-1984 SCAMdemic or terrorism is a real threat.

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    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

    There's no evidence they are a shill unless you can provide some.

    There's clearly evidence they buy into the divisive tribalist left-right paradigm and have picked a team over which they have zero influence, with or without votes.

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      [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (19 children)

      "I'm good at detecting shills."

      Citations needed.

      "There's no substance backing their comments and they can't reply with a single counterpoint and they do it repeatedly."

      Logical fallacy.

      They could be short on time, keystrokes, or brains.

      "Of course there's a small chance it's a dumb partisan normie,"

      I despise using Occam's razor, but cases like these, most people are just normies.

      "but either way it's shilling behavior."

      Nonsense.

      There's nothing to support that claim, obvious or not.

      Obviously they support the Democrats. Obviously they don't know much about Kamala. Obviously they didn't read the article.

      [–]Yin 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

      There's no substance backing their comments and they can't reply with a single counterpoint and they do it repeatedly.

      Logical fallacy.

      That's not a logical fallacy.

      They could be short on time, keystrokes, or retarded.

      It doesn't change much to me.

      Nonsense.

      It's not nonsense. Shilling behavior is nonsense, though.

      [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

      " Characteristics I described are those of a shill. "

      OR those that I mentioned or more. Just because something is round doesn't make it an orange. Checking off one or two boxes doesn't make it fact. Build up a case and prove they are a shill, other treat the idiots with a little respect. Just a little. We were all idiots once, and many of us still are in endless ways, myself included.

      Get familiar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies#Faulty_generalizations See: Cherry picking

      It matters "whether they are definitely a shill or not" because there is a chance someone can learn. Perhaps not the one behind the other keyboard but certainly those who read these comments.

      " I'll continue to call out shills as I see them. "

      Better to call out errors and fallacies as you see them.

      " People who are called shills are welcome to offer up some substance and change my mind. "

      That's not how it works. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? That thinking is as bad as the totalitarians'.

      [–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

      It was shilling behavior. I stand by my description. You simply disagree with it. That doesn't make it a fallacy.

      [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

      You provided no proof and you cherry picked for a guilty verdict.

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        [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        It was Fallacious behavior. No evidence he IS a shill. I think many humans think fallacious rhetoric is critical thinking anyway. Doesn't mean they are a shill.

        [–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Correct. It doesn't mean they're a shill.

        [–]foxhound 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (27 children)

        Is that the only line you people know?

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          [–]foxhound 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (25 children)

          Why should I state facts that are just going to be called fake news? It's my opinion. You don't like it fuck off.

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            [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (19 children)

            [–]Yin 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

            Voting in the 2020 election is extremely important. Trump is still superior to the alternative.

            [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

            You're still picking sides when it's all an illusion.

            /s/Voting_IsARiggedJoke/comments/68f3/corruption_is_legal_in_america_550_representus/

            Trump is NOT superior (nor worse). He's in bed with Israel and the Russian Jewish Mafiya (the authentic Russiagate). He filled the swamp to overflowing, nothing new, every POTUS does it. Biden would be no different.

            Thus far, I give the Trump Administration a single piece of credit (and could list dozens of shitty and profoundly shitty demerits) - he has tried but he has not actually started a war with another country. I expect his second term will change that. He's already drone bombed more than Obama and Bush combined, but at least those were in the 7 to 9 countries we're already at war with.

            The USA has the absolute LEAST number of parties to still be jokingly called a democracy. Just one less and it's like China (who also have rigged elections).

            Time to evolve past the tribalist Hegelian dialectic of the duopoly with 2 wings of the warhawk business party. There's your New Normal World Order - it's already here, under Trump-Obama-Bush-Clinton-Bush-Carter.

            [–]Yin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

            I disagree. Trump is a superior alternative to most of the DNC/GOP and especially to Biden/Harris. I prefer a Supreme Court that's at least more likely to preserve laws I care about.

            [–]Questionable 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

            Time to evolve past the tribalist Hegelian dialectic of the duopoly with 2 wings of the warhawk business party.

            Right. Most have us, have already done so. Still have to vote, even if it's to vote for unknowns and third parties.

            In this case, I'm hoping for a red wave to ride Trump's coat tails. If parties don't matter, then lets vote in some new blood that hasn't been indoctrinated yet. And to put it simply, I have never seen the media and corporations slander someone this intensely. Which leads us to the current combination of the pharmaceutical companies, ChiMo elites and the collapse of the fiat monetary system, where as everything Trump is currently doing lines up against the globalists. I need to pick a side on this, and for me, it is the person who is both being blamed for everything bad, and silenced on every good he does.

            I mean honestly, what would you have me do? Go join the corporate sponsored protest in support of an overdosed felon? Because if you're not offering up an alternative action, then you are just here to discourage others from taking theirs.

            Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,ɯ Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ

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                [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                Truth. If only we could rely on un-infiltrated, un-compromised, un-corrupted voter education for the masses.

                [–]Yin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                You only have fake news to back you up.

                [–]foxhound 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

                Why the fuck do you keep replying? I'm not playing your games.

                [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                you took a huge L here shill

                [–]screwballeclipsed 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

                while i don't agree with that article entirely, what part did you disagree with?

                she didn't mention any of the democrat governors stuffing cov+ people into nursing homes for a higher kill count to make trump look bad. the testing numbers is bs, testing wasn't pushed at all during ebola outbreak.

                real odd any candidate would support an openly marxist organization. if black lives really mattered, why doesn't that organization care about the hundreds of blacks shot every month in 'gun free' chicago?

                kamala isn't black, she is of indian and jamaican descent. her great grandfather owned slaves. she needs to pay back the black people of today. where's the reparations kamala?

                [–]Idhavetocharge 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                Most black people have a slave owner ancestor because slave owners rape slaves.

                Black people are not native to Jamaica. Jamaica had zero people before ships brought the east indian trading company which also later brought slaves from africa to build the valuable sugarcane plantations.

                Don't they teach basic history anymore.

                [–]screwballeclipsed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                i did get a little over the top there. jamaicans are descendants of blacks. so ok, she's likely of sub-saharan descent from her fathers side.

                the history of jamaica is not basic to any country except maybe jamaica. but yeah, basic history is not taught much anymore because the masters do not want the slaves to learn from what the masters have done to them in the past. history is rewritten to their advantage.