No scientific study has demonstrated that masks do any good at all in terms of protecting people from COVID-19

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[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

Our elected [officials] MUST know this. Fauci was saying it as late as March. Then he started saying the exact opposite. WTF is going on here?

[–]Klondike 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Fauci was saying don't buy medical masks because there was a shortage and our first responders and hospital staff needed them more.

[–]Velocity 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I recall, the Surgeon General originally said they don't work. Fauci called them symbolic.

[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

He also was saying MASKS DON'T WORK AGAINST VIRUSES, and they only make people 'feel better'.

[–]Klondike 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Back in March we knew less overall about the virus. The guidance from the WHO at the time was also that masks were likely ineffective.

Austria was one of the first countries to implement a mask mandate and they almost immediately saw a massive decrease in the number of new cases. Other places followed suit and also got results.

[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

But Sweden didn't, and their numbers have bottomed out. The entire POINT is that viruses have been studied for 100 years. We KNOW paper and cloth masks DO NOT WORK, we have known it for decades. https://thecrowhouse.com/memes/masked.JPG

[–]Klondike 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Umm Sweden isn't doing well though?

on a per-capita basis, Sweden far outpaces its Scandinavian neighbors in COVID deaths, with 567 deaths per million people compared with Denmark's 106 deaths per million, Finland's 59 deaths per million, and Norway's 47 deaths per million. The Swedish figure is closer to Italy's 581 deaths per million.

Not sure what point you are trying to make.

Another tidbit:

On top of that, there are no indications that the Swedish economy has fared better than in many other countries. At the moment, we have set an example for the rest of the world on how not to deal with a deadly infectious disease.

[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

All those deaths were old peepo with pre-existing medical conditions, just like the rest of the world. They would have 'died' of the flu if not for muh coronahoax.

My POINT is that being alive is inherently risky. Shutting down the entire world over a virus is INSANE. Our ancestors dealt with far worse, and we managed to get thru it.

[–]Klondike 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Young people have died too numbnuts. And many of the younger people who got the virus and survived are now experiencing an increased rate of strokes.

And it's not insane. Quarantines have happened all throughout history.

[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

You won't read this, but I tried https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/sweden-hit-rare-covid-triple-whammy-no-lockdowns-low-deaths-minimal-economic-damage

[–]Klondike 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's comparing to Britain, not other Nordic countries.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

our first responders and hospital staff

(Read: the IDF)

[–]Klondike 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Nope, people who work in hospitals.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The FBI, under Trump's instruction, confiscated 5 million N95 masks from US hospitals. 1 million of those went to the IDF, free of charge.

[–]Klondike 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do you have a source for that? I remember the confiscations going on, and state governors being forced to hide PPE from the feds, but I didn't hear anything about sending it overseas.

That's pretty fucked if true.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/did-us-just-supply-million-face-masks-israeli-army

[–]Klondike 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Doesn't seem like a great source, but that's definitely fishy. I'm surprised there hasn't been more investigation into this.

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The U.S. already gives them billions every year that could go toward national infrastructure, education, and other important things instead.