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[–]jamesK_3rd 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (33 children)

Whatever it is, this isn't the question.

The question is do we shut down the world economy and our lives themselves over TB, the flu, herpes, hiv, or any of the other different types of virus and/or sars-coronavirus that exist.

Life is inherently risky. Retreating to your home to swipe right on grindr just changes to a different type of risk profile.

The government cannot eliminate risk from every facet of life for you no matter what they may tell you or how hard atheism requires you to believe that it can.

The median age of death for covid 19 is 78, ironically the average life expectancy for males in the USA is a similar number.

A majority of the believers in atheism might be ready for the govt to rule them as evidenced by the fact that some states have less than a hundred or two hundred deaths from (or while testing positive for) the virus and lockdown/facemask/goggles are in full effect and the masses are completely compliant.

This is a political question, not a scientific one. If it were scientific, we would've isolated those at the most risk months ago, instead of executing them while jailing everyone else.

Of course none of this matters, largely because it is political, and the outcomes are fairly set it would seem.

[–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

The question is do we shut down the world economy and our lives themselves over TB, the flu, herpes, hiv, or any of the other different types of virus and/or sars-coronavirus that exist.

This is the typical ignorant and egocentric response of someone who isn't at risk or doesn't know they're at risk.

And hey, America and Brasil are following your advice. How's their coronavirus death toll?

[–]noice 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

[–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Then let's avoid every discussion ever, forever, and let us only cling stubbornly to what we believe, without ever talking to anyone who doesn't exactly align with our views. No risk of forming a fascist regime or a civil war by acting like this, oh, nossir. Hey, wait a second...... that's exactly what America is doing.

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    [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

    Perhaps focus more on how shitty your economy system is, rather than wanting to slave out some more at the risk of dying. Your dumb slave behaviour is exactly what your shitty economy wants.

    [–]Zahn 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

    Ossi, your insght and vocabulary is..

    shitty

    complete with fallacies and ...

    dumb

    conclusions, along with an inept and

    shitty

    understanding of how economics work.

    [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    understanding of how economics work

    I'm afraid it doesn't take a Nobel prize to understand the current economy. But go on. Seems like you LOVE being a slave. Exactly what they wanted.

    [–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I do know how it works, and quite honestly I'm less than a slave than you are to it.

    [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yeah, tell me all about how you're such a free man. Free to not wear a face mask for basic decency, at least.

    [–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You're rather patronizing, perhaps you could elaborate on what you confidently know my freedoms to be or not.

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      [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      People like you who want to make it worse for others because you see everyone who takes part in the economy as "dumb slaves" in a "shitty economy" are speaking from a place of laziness and selfishness

      I have two university degrees. I was a college teacher. Now I work as a store clerk as if I hadn't even finished high school, and I'm begging to keep my job.

      But I've seen the 1%. I've known an asshole who already got his personal villa at 17 years old, no work required. He's the grandson of a CEO.

      I've seen the rich people demanding the poor people work and ignore the pandemic, and forcing them to do so. And I've seen people like you, mostly Americans, fully buying on the bullshit. I guess eventually, when you no longer have a meal, you will be forced to wake up.

      Or, you can be an asshole and ignore coronavirus safety measures - because you'd beg to work as a slave for minimum wage, and think it's ok, but to you, wearing a mask and washing your hands to help others is "cage mentality". Oh, poor idiot.

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        [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

        In what?

        Languages and Cultures of Eastern Asia. Languages and Cultures of Europe.

        Why? Were you expecting some bullshit fake degrees like "gender studies" or other crap?

        [–]Velocity 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Not so much, but I'm a little disappointed that your studies don't give you much credibility in understanding the Covid panic.

        [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        I'm a little disappointed that your studies don't give you much credibility in understanding the Covid panic.

        They do give me a lot of credibility about understanding current economy, buddy.

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          [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          Also, no offense, but it doesn't help your argument.

          Why? Because only economists can understand the current economy, and only virologists can understand a pandemic?

          So I'm assuming nobody else can speak a foreign language or know good grammar unless they hold my same college degrees?

          I'm no virologist and I'm no economist. At all. Thankfully it doesn't require to be either to understand the current situation. It does require, however, to read and ponder what virologists and economists are saying.

          [–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

          typical ignorant and egocentric

          you just described yourself, bravo, fatty

          [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          "Fatty"? Sorry, I'm not American. Thankfully I'm not overweight. Are you?

          [–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

          You SOUND like a fatty. Also, the fattest country is Mexico, US is only #2.

          [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not fat. It comes from a culture who doesn't grow up with junk food, like America does. Thankfully, not every country has an obesity problem like you do, at least for now. So...... what about YOU? Are you also fat, or just ugly? I'm betting on ugly AND fat. Very fat, and sweaty.

          [–]whistlepig 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

          growing more slowly than before...

          [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

          Sure, it'll grow even slower when enough thousands of thousands of people have died. Because you know, that's how pandemics generally work -whiping out a good chunk of the population and then calming down. Not that you'd know any of this, if you're American and therefore ignorant.

          Just wait it out, then. What an altruistic and sensible behavour you have.

          [–]whistlepig 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

          yep.. just like every other year and other viral infections......

          I agree, it is more altruistic to "wait it out" rather than cause needless suffering, global economic devastation and social panic.

          [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

          yep.. just like every other year and other viral infections......

          Your level of ignorance is dumbfounding. Were you born this stupid, or did the lack of proper education help you out with it?

          [–]Zahn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          Dunning-Kruger Effect example happening right now!

          [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          Ah that's funny, repeating something you read on Wikipedia or on Reddit, while I'm pretty sure you never actually studied psychology or sociology. You're showing such culture.

          [–]Zahn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          It's a fairly common descriptor that's tossed about sometimes.

          I'm pretty sure you never actually studied psychology or sociology.

          I do have a background in one of your mentions.

          [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I do have a background in one of your mentions.

          It's definitely psychology.