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[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

" the most powerful people in the world are pushing for socialism, and by extension communism "

This is fallacious in many ways. Socialism is a process, like science, and they, like capitalism, can be used for good and/or evil.

The corporatocracy's corrupt socialism, aka Authoritarian Communism, is NOT the socialism most people want, such as proper healthcare, non-corrupt police, affordable education, non-corrupt unions, no-fucking-wars, no toxic pollution, etc.

That's a huge fucking leap from socialism to communism - as anyone who actually understands politics should know. We've been over this before Canbot so I'm assuming you're a shill with a propaganda agenda or a mental deficiency.

Every nation on Earth is capitalist and socialist to some degrees depending on the myriad of aspects to discuss.

" No one dumb enough to believe them can even explain the details of how a socialist system is supposed to work. "

More fallacious nonsense. Because you can't understand socialism you say it can't be done and continue to demonize everyone who isn't like you. Shameful.

" The oligarchs that are promising the infinite bounty of socialist benefits "

The Dems used to, the GOP never did. Now they don't even mask how far right they all are on everything except for their distracting insane political-correctness bullshit. They used to promise healthcare and peace and now they finally admit that will never come to be.

[–]sproketboy[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Socialism is a process, like science, and they, like capitalism, can be used for good and/or evil.

No Socialism is not like science since there's no current way where experiments that fail are re-evaluated. See Venezuela where people emptied the zoos and ate their pets for food. We should have known better by now.

We don't have any double-blind study to look for - but we do have history. And Lysenkoism is always a threat in a collective ideology. We see this today with complaints about "colonialism" and "white math".

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, socialism is a process, and just because they don't reassess their ways, for better or worse, doesn't mean it's not possible. Certainly in socialist Canada many things are being reassessed and fine tuned - and sadly many things ought to be but aren't.

Your Venezuela propaganda bullshit is obviously pathetic to anyone who knows anything about it. Get the CIA and the US sanctions out and off of Venezuela's back and I assure you it would flourish even more than ever. Of course the ZOG powers can't allow that or they'd have another independent Iran on their hands.

" We should have known better by now. "

We do. You don't.

Blind faith in corporate profit-driven unverifiable healthcare and technology is Scientism. You are wise to doubt it.

See also:
/s/911truth
/s/Agenda21_Agenda2030
/s/ClimateSkeptics
/s/Coronavirus
/s/Corporatocracy
/s/CorruptScience
/s/Gaslighting
/s/HolocaustSkepticism
/s/Illusions
/s/LockdownSkepticism
/s/OpenScience_Scientism
/s/Propaganda (aka "public relations")
/s/PsyOps
/s/Technocracy
/s/VaccineSkepticism
/s/WikiSpooks

[–]sproketboy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, socialism is a process

For the worse, yes. We can't seem to convince naive people to give it up.

Certainly in socialist Canada

Canada nor "Sweden" is socialist. They, like all western democratic societies (including the US) are market capitalist economies where the wealth generated is used for social programs. You need to study history more brother.

Your Venezuela propaganda bullshit is obviously pathetic to anyone who knows anything about it. Get the CIA....

Yeah because the CIA were in Venezuela telling Chavez to centrally plan their economy and let the technocrats control everything until they fucked up and made life miserable for millions. ROFL. I'm sure the CIA did stupid shit like all government bureaucrats do. But the idea that they fucked up Venezuela any more than their idiot government did is redonculous.

I also notice you have no comment on Lysenkoism which killed millions and is inevitable when you hand massive powers to unaccountable bureaucrats.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I live in socialist Canada. In some ways more than its ever been, in some less.

MSM want's people like you to keep spouting how socialism and communism are equivalent but they aren't.

Since you think the CIA is so ineffective then perhaps you can explain away all the other shit they've done over the last century, including controlling the MSM and brainwashing folks like you into believing they're just some benevolent secret agency. The CIA controls ALL the Dems and has a hand in all their SJW commie BLM agendas.

I'll tell you why I didn't comment on Lysenkoism. Because it's a big fancy word that guys like you think makes them seem smart. You can call me a Luddite or science-denier if you want to but IMO the proven worse danger is Scientism - as I'd explained. I didn't know I actually had to spell all that out for you.

In fact, your fancy term reminded me of another fancy term, Malthusianism, an actually useful term that The Myth Of The 20th Century guys often use (I think you'd actually like their podcast as I do):

/s/DepopulationWatch/comments/5y21/malthusianism_the_idea_that_population_growth_is/ /s/overpopulation/comments/5y22/malthusianism_the_idea_that_population_growth_is/ /s/Terminology/comments/5y23/malthusianism_the_idea_that_population_growth_is/

[–]sproketboy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)