The Woke Left v. the Alt-Right: A New Study Shows They’re More Alike Than Either Side Realizes - Quillette

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[–]AFutureConcern 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The woke left and the alt-right have fundamentally different and incompatible world views. Just because both are illiberal, meaning they both want to achieve their political aims rather than "letting people do what they want," doesn't mean they are at all the same.

  • The woke left denies that race exists; the alt-right believes that races are different
  • The woke left denies sexual dimorphism; the alt-right believes the sexes are different
  • The woke left praises diversity; the alt-right wants ethnostates
  • The woke left hates white people; the alt-right loves white people
  • The woke left hates the legacy of European civilization; the alt-right loves the legacy of European civilization
  • The woke left desires equality; the alt-right desires hierarchy
  • The woke left thinks language constructs reality; the alt-right thinks reality constructs language
  • The woke left adopts critical theory; the alt-right opposes critical theory
  • The woke left adopts queer theory; the alt-right opposes queer theory
  • The woke left supports feminism; the alt-right supports traditional gender roles
  • The woke left thinks racism is the greatest sin; the alt-right thinks racism is a social construct
  • The woke left supports abolishing the police; the alt-right supports law and order
  • The woke left agrees with multinational corporations; the alt-right opposes multinational corporations

I could go on and on. They aren't at all alike and horseshoe theory needs to die.

[–]GConly 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

The woke left denies that race exists

They deny it exists and then insist on defining people by it, and using race as a metric to decide on preferential treatment, and discrimination in hiring.

The woke left praises diversity

And want to bring back racial segregation in classrooms.

the alt-right loves white people

It's actually kind of fond of East Asians, they tend to get honorary 'white' passes on alt right subs.

the alt-right opposes multinational corporations

I've honestly not noticed them caring much about that as long as they stick to business and don't stick their nose into politics.

The woke left desires equality; the alt-right desires hierarchy

No, the woke want equity, which means something very different. The alt right want a meritocracy, although it's a ethnostate version with women at home.

[–]AFutureConcern 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They deny it exists and then insist on defining people by it, and using race as a metric to decide on preferential treatment, and discrimination in hiring.

You're right - but they still claim that it's all just "social constructs", in defiance of the evidence. I honestly think the alt-right in power would be fairer to non-whites than whites are treated today. White people get discriminated against and the woke left have the gall to redefine the word "discrimination" so that they aren't.

And want to bring back racial segregation in classrooms.

Mostly this segregation involves separating off the white people from the non-whites. "Diversity" means getting rid of white people, so their segregated space is actually perfectly "diverse". (This is not hyperbole; the theorists probably would count an all-black space as "diverse" because it's against the "prevailing hegemonic white discourse").

It's actually kind of fond of East Asians, they tend to get honorary 'white' passes on alt right subs.

This is just a jab.

I've honestly not noticed them caring much about that as long as they stick to business and don't stick their nose into politics.

Depends on who you talk to. Anti-capitalist thought has a long tradition on the right. But so does unabashed pro-capitalism.

No, the woke want equity, which means something very different. The alt right want a meritocracy, although it's a ethnostate version with women at home.

Equity is just equality+, moving from equality of opportunity to equality of outcome. I think once one accepts equality of opportunity, equality of outcome is not a giant leap to make. After all, do rich children not have a better opportunity to succeed than poor children? If we want absolute equality of opportunity, we have to redistribute the wealth of their parents... but then every parent will have the same wealth (equality of outcome).