Unpopular opinion: parts of third-wave feminism directly led to the rise of trans ideology

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[–]mangosplums 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sorry, yeah I was being rhetorical. That’s the motivation sometimes. I think there’s other motivations as well though.

[–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah I agree fetishism is just the most common one IMO. Second most common is probably the desire to be a "gender special" so you can feel oppressed.

[–]mangosplums 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That is definitely also one of them though I don’t know the percentage breakdown for these catagories... I also think that a man who simply wants to explore a girly side, sometimes feels the need to “become” a woman in order to do so. It shouldn’t be that way. People like Caitlyn Jenner or the Wakowski siblings, I don’t really care about them transitioning, but I do care about that everyone takes seriously the idea that they are women now and that they should be speaking on women’s issues and being included in women’s symposiums and counted in women’s statistics. They have had the successes they’ve had in life because they’ve lived their lives as men. It’s disingenuous to see them as women. The Wakowskis are now seen as the most successful women in film.... because they aren’t women in film. If we just recognized that trans women are a different category than women and trans men are a different category then men, it’d be fine.

[–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

According to Blanchard, before people started blindly swallowing the trans kool-aid a lot of AGPs would "cope" by wearing women's panties to work or something along those lines. Another behavior, which is still common, is to secretly raid your female family member's wardrobe to try on.

Jenner's step-daughter (one of the Kardashian kids who didn't get famous from a sex tape, I forget which one) caught him trying on her panties when she was a teenager. Bruce told her she needed to keep it a secret for "the good of the family" or something like that, and when she did eventually talk about it Bruce claimed that she made it up for attention or something like that.

I can't speak to the Wakowskis but Jenner is totally an AGP.

[–]mangosplums 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You may be right, I don’t know that much about the Jenner case. I definitely am skeptical about men who are hyper masculine who then say they are actually super feminine and were just pretending to be hyper masculine the whole time. I don’t think it works that way. If you are truly feminine, you won’t be able to hide it, you don’t react by becoming hyper masculine to combat it, you just are a very effeminate man and it shows in everything you do. Even if it is true, and it’s not AGP, and you just want to embrace a feminine side, it shouldn’t be seen that you are a woman now. You can’t be after all those years as a man. If only they’d accept that they are trans women and be respectful of women, there’d be no problem.