Unpopular opinion: parts of third-wave feminism directly led to the rise of trans ideology

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[–]florasis 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

We got the usual idiot who blames women for men behaviour. All this trans ideology is about men perversion. The incels, the men who got an autogynephile porn perversion and get off by wearing female clothes. The same men who also extremely aggressive and entitled like of the usual of toxic masculinity, attacking women for not wanting to sleep with them and invading their space. It's all about men, and it is gender queer ideology (which is the opposite of feminism, which is based on discrimination based on biological sex), that is supporting them.

[–]Solarcore 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

And growing crowds of transmen are just misguided lesbians? You’ve drank too much of the trending propaganda cool aid. Fetisist transitioning is one thing, sure, and that’s fucked up, but it ain’t the whole at all.

[–]florasis 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah. Absolutely. Transmen with dysphoria are actually very masculine homosexual women. And today there is a great pressure on butch lesbians convincing them they're actually transmen, just because they're naturally masculine. But today there are even a growing amount of transmen who are actually hetero girls with gay fetish. The point is that there is to make a difference between people with dysporia who are usually homosexuals or autistics. And people who are convinced to being trans for being gender non comforming or the ones got a fetish. Today, thanks to gender ideology , there is a lot of perversion going on. Mostly hetero males calling themselves lesbians and bragging about girldick and lesbians spaces have been infested by it.These problems have been going on for years. Most people don't have idea that today trans ideology is mostly centered around perverted hetero males, not femme gay males like in the past.

[–]Solarcore 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sad to hear that. When I knew of that crowd, it was common knowledge that one should not transition for fetish, and the crossdresser crowds were way larger than the small groups that felt that the had no other option. I truly think there are real cases of trans outside the tangeltial causes for the symptoms. Also, among the fetisist, some told that it started like that (commonly not feeling like it at all after wanking) but later as years pass by, often with experiences dating as woman, especially if passing well, some mentioned that the sexual aspects and feelings truly vaned and it was just about “being themselves”. These were ones often without clear advices on what they are, what is the right to do and no-one really had clear takeA on this. Back then all these things moves way more slowly, entry to medical processes was hard, worth tight screening and it took minimum two years, 6-8 wasn’t unheard of.

[–]florasis 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, that's the point. In the past there were transexuals who were the one with real dysphoria (who literally hated their body) and who were homosexual, and they were really few, because the people who really need to transition are not many. But today the queer theory has changed everything. And the hetero male with fetish, who in the past would just dress up in private, are now transwomen. Hetero with fetish are way more than actual naturally dysphoric people. They're just like portraiting themselves as female, it either a sexual fetish call autogynephilia or they're incels and think being transwomen give them more attention, surely more chances to harrass women since they can play the victim card like they couldn't do as regular males, but actually got not real dysphoria. They love their dicks and lesbians are constantly harrassed and attacked as transphobic for not wanting to sleep with them. This is traditional abusive aggressive male bahaviour, but in a dress. Like the opposite of feminism.

[–]Solarcore 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree that part queer theory that gender roles are big thing here. For myself, back when I could pass, I found that the female social role, ways of interacting and expectations and treatment was just so much more natural and fluent - unlike among men. Comes with having grown always as “one of the girls”. And being kinda girly and feminine man among the other men, especially socially, is often resented, but less than one would easily expect. But never had that strong feeling of bodily dysphoria, and even though mighty have donee fine had I gone down that road, I’m happy I didn’t. Nowdays I’m quite fine that I get commonly read as femme gay, even as that I ain’t the thing, just expressing as I come naturally and feel like, I get along with all aspects of life quite nicely.

[–]florasis 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well you escaped queer theory. If you had grown up in today world, you would have chemically castrated yourself.

[–]Solarcore 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, even back then there was that pressure in the community - topic to itself- but can’t imagine what it is today now that cross dressers are thing of past and voices of slow and careful approach on these topica are far and few. But hey, I found a wife who has a thing for men like me and raising kids is just great. Wouldn’t ever want to sacrifice that for some unneccessary comfort.

Once I heard a hushed discussion that “even many of those transsexuals who seemed to do great on all fronts, ended up committing suicide decades later ...and there is something more to this” alas, no-one went to tell their theories, would’ve like to know what. One trans man hitting 50 confessed me that it was in the end, truly about not being ok with having periods and hating them on all the levels, but that testosterone was a mistake, but have to just roll with where he is now.