Unpopular opinion: parts of third-wave feminism directly led to the rise of trans ideology

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[–]flugegeheimen 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Doesn't mean children and gay men are privileged.

Children are privileged in comparison to adults, I'm not sure how is this even something that needs to be spelled out.

You don't hear gay vs straight because mass media don't report these details and you can't tell the sexual orientation from a mugshot or anything that is reported. I'm not sure anyone even bothers to have crime stats on that.

Your analogy consistently fall apart. I say male violence is a problem for everyone because men are the main perpetrator of violence against both men and women. If we can make men as a class be less violent, everyone benefits.

"I say poors violence is a problem for everyone because poors are the main perpetrator of violence against both poor and rich. If we can make poor as a class be less violent, everyone benefits. "

When you say "Your analogy consistently fall apart." I was expecting to see where it actually "falls apart" rather than plain repeat of your original claim again. Did you get distracted and forgot what you wanted to say or something?

I'm gonna have to ask for receipts on this one.

As soon as I see receipts on men choosing more effective suicide methods because of male violence or whatever misandric shit you came up with.

[–]just_lesbian_things 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Children are privileged in comparison to adults, I'm not sure how is this even something that needs to be spelled out.

OK, now I can't take you seriously.

What privileges do children have? In most developed countries, children can't drink, can't drive, can't marry, can't open bank account, can't obtain gainful employment, can't own a house, can't vote, can't live without an adult, can't exist without constant supervision. I don't think they're necessarily oppressed, because there's a good reason why they these rules exist, but what privileges do they have? I don't think you know what privilege means in the context of social and systemic injustice. Why don't you give me your definition of privilege?

You don't hear gay vs straight because mass media don't report these details and you can't tell the sexual orientation from a mugshot or anything that is reported.

Sure they report on it. I read about gay bashing regularly. Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean the information doesn't exist.

When you say "Your analogy consistently fall apart." I was expecting to see where it actually "falls apart" rather than plain repeat of your original claim again.

Rich people aren't a victim of violence that exists within poor circles. Billionaires aren't out there mugging people at gunpoint; but they're also not getting mugged by people at gunpoint. They live in the own bubble. Women don't; women make up a significant percentage of victims of male violence.

As soon as I see receipts on men choosing more effective suicide methods because of male violence or whatever misandric shit you came up with

Uh oh, somebody sounds hurt. Men are more violent; both against others and against themselves. What sort of receipts do you need?

[–]flugegeheimen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What privileges do children have?

They are literally supported by adults without having to worry where to live and what to eat tomorrow? We were talking in context of violence and in this context absolutely obvious what kind of privilege and privileged class I meant. The right to vote doesn't affect your chances to be robbed and neither is most of the shit you listed for unknown reason.

Sure they report on it. I read about gay bashing regularly. Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean the information doesn't exist.

If you want that kind of demagogy then your initial claim can be dismissed the same way.

Rich people aren't a victim of violence that exists within poor circles. Billionaires aren't out there mugging people at gunpoint; but they're also not getting mugged by people at gunpoint.

This is incorrect but irrelevant.

Women don't; women make up a significant percentage of victims of male violence.

My point was that a privileged class of people is less violent. The point of rich\poor analogy was to demonstrate that the idea "privileged class of people being less violent" isn't exactly my innovative breakthrough, we all know that well-rounded successful people are less prone to crimes and violence. Billionaire is just an extreme example: they are so privileged, it would be ridiculous to even imagine them engaging in armed robbery. So instead of your "male violence" misandric bullshit we have a less inane explanation of women being allegedly less violent which is : women are privileged.

Uh oh, somebody sounds hurt. Men are more violent; both against others and against themselves. What sort of receipts do you need?

Uh oh, somebody sounds hurt. Women choose less effective methods of suicide because they do it for attention. What sort of receipts do you need?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You don't hear gay vs straight because mass media don't report these details and you can't tell the sexual orientation from a mugshot or anything that is reported. I'm not sure anyone even bothers to have crime stats on that.

You just have to look at the nature of the crime, not the self identification of the sexual orientation of the perpetrator. Any sexual crime done by a male to another male, ie rape and molestation, is done by a homosexual because any man who rapes or molests another man or boy is homosexual by default.