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[–]flugegeheimen 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

What are the solutions to this? One would be to double-down on biological essentialism. Here is one great example of that, while here is another. Another solution would be to de-stigmatize masculinity, and tell young men that it's okay to be a man.

Well, the latter isn't going to happen without dismantling the feminism completely because the whole foundation of it is misandry. It's like removing the Devil and Hell from Christianity.

However, I think it's also the closest to real solution. The root reason the MtF transition even exists outside of minuscule amount of mentally ill people with real gender dysphoria is inequality: women are privileged, men are underprivileged. So moving (or pretending to move) in MtF direction is a social lift. You can't force someone to break their delusions (to double-down on biological essentialism) when they want to have these delusions and they want it to have a better life.

So, yeah, the absolute majority of TiMs will become just Ms when rabid societal misandry will stop reminding them that they are the most pathetic scum for being born with a penis and that women are wonderful. This also won't happen without getting rid of main perpetrators of the misandry: feminists and their brainwashed male allies. (With a main focus on allies because they are the sole reason feminism even exists today).

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It's misandry, yes, but most of it is just women's stronger drive towards victimhood and hypo-agency. Women are just as capable as men, but they constantly seem to need them for their causes. Marriage is one of the most terrible things for women - just awful - but be a MGTOW and walk away from marriage? Woman hater! What the fuck are men supposed to do? They are supposed to be there when a woman needs a plumber but get out of the way when things are neat and comfortable. That is the story of modern society. Productive people enter a space, make it clean, build it and then it's invaded by women and weak men. Then those idiots rant and rave how the men that built the space make it unsafe and drive them out. Those men then go to the next space, build it, make it safe and well-functioning. The places they are driven from, in the meantime, fall apart. But, for that they are blamed, too! How does that logic work? It doesn't. Evil patriarchy if you marry her, evil misogynist when you walk away. Evil white colonialist when you build a neighborhood and make it nice, then you gentrify, and white flight when you leave. Apartheid remnants when you provide food for your country, weak cowards abandoning their country when you leave.

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Derek_J._de_Solla_Price

What the fuck are we supposed to do? Nothing! Point and laugh at the crazy and stop kowtowing to it. Point and laugh at those idiot feminists already. Productive people do not need to learn how to say "Yes" they need to learn how to say "No".