Unpopular opinion: parts of third-wave feminism directly led to the rise of trans ideology

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[–]just_lesbian_things 21 insightful - 8 fun21 insightful - 7 fun22 insightful - 8 fun -  (5 children)

Hot response: this isn't an unpopular opinion. This is one of the few things both third wave feminists and their critics (including second wave/radfems) agree on: that third wave feminism paved the road for trans activism.

the need of young men to attain a sense of masculine self-worth

Nah, I think the problem is that young men have too high a sense of self worth. There are young (and old) men out there who think their feelings = reality. If that's not a symptom of ego overinflation, I don't know what is. Men need to get the fuck over themselves.

[–]latuspod 13 insightful - 7 fun13 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 7 fun -  (4 children)

As a former young man this is definitely not the case for all men. Men dont kill themselves 3 times as often because of their high sense of self worth.

There undoubtedly are men out there exactly as you describe, but they arent the majority.

[–]just_lesbian_things 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Women are more likely to attempt suicide than men, but men are more likely to succeed. Men succeed more because they choose more violent methods. Male violence is a problem for both men and women, as both sexes end up victims to it. I'd say maybe masculinity and its ties to violence and the "boys will be boys" attitude regarding violent behavior is the source of the problem, but if you've got a better explanation, I'm all ears.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Clearly testosterone causes people to become violent.

This isn't just a difference between men and women. Men with higher testosterone are more violent on average even though they have the same socialisation and upbringing as normal men. Testosterone also causes the same difference between male and female mammals. The evidence is pretty clear cut whether people like it or not.

[–]just_lesbian_things 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah people like to say that, but they don't understand the implications.

See, I think, to participate in society you need to meet a certain standard of behavior. Kind of like how if someone wants to drive, they need to get a license. If they can't pass their driving test, they don't get a license and they can't drive. I don't care if it's because they are near sighted and can't see the road, or so fucking old that they can't react to traffic, they're not getting behind the wheel.

I say things like "maybe it's socialization" or "why don't you retake your test with glasses on" because I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But if what you say is true, and men are innately violent as a result of their hormones, then we'll have to look into more drastic measures. As we've already established, I don't give a fuck if men get castrated. Beyond that, we might have to look into barring men from owning weapons that may exacerbate their violent nature. We may have to ban men from certain occupations that wouldn't be suited to a violent prone demographic. After all, traffic laws don't change to accommodate people who fail their driving test. Here's to hoping it's socialization.

[–]mangosplums 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not socialization though. That's one of the most obvious things.