Unpopular opinion: parts of third-wave feminism directly led to the rise of trans ideology

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[–]Ossidiana 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Nope. It's men. It's always been men, and it's men again. Men brought the rise of trans ideology, men are those who benefit from trans ideology, and men are those who got so pissed that now women can live with the same rights as men that they're trying to say women don't exist (because men are women too).

I know it hurts, but it's just the facts.

Do you still have doubts?

Then ask yourself the old phylosophical question: CUI PRODEST? Who benefits from it?

And who benefits from the trans movement is men.

[–]DustinM 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

But ... but the feminists! Everything is always the fault of women especially the uppity feminists! /s

Seriously though this post fails the pyramid of debate right from the start. Kate Beaton created a comic about similar.

http://www.harkavagrant.com/?id=341

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But ... but the feminists! Everything is always the fault of women especially the uppity feminists! /s

What a dumb straw man.

Also, that comic is as idiotic as some of those "assigned male" comics.

Seriously though this post fails the pyramid of debate right from the start.

You're a moron. Does that fail the pyramid of debate?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Men brought about the tranny wave just as much as they brought about the migrant crisis. Just because it's men who end up being perpetrators, a minority of them, does not mean they are the driving force behind it. People voting against their own interests is not unheard of. It's dumb, but not unheard of. Take the state of black America, for example. If you are an emotional reasoner, you tend to vote on an emotional basis. Look at the voting patterns and tell me it's men driving wokeness, which is not just expressed in terms of tranny ideology but with a host of other social trends whose commonalities some people still seem too dense to absorb.

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/FT_17.11.06_transgender_accepting.png

These trends are very clear and they are always along the same lines: women support wokeness more than men.

I think this qualifies as "survivor bias": Risk takers are more willing to play the lottery. Therefor, most lottery winners will probably be people with personality factors that predispose them to taking risks, maybe gamble. Therefor, most lottery winners will seem like risk takers. However, to conclude the inverse is a fallacy. Most risk takers eliminate themselves early. Most companies, for example, go under. A group that is, on average, more represented in group A can still make up the majority of group B. That is part of why men seem to be in leadership positions. Their risk taking behaviors and their drive make it more likely for them to be the select few at the upper percentiles, but they face poorer outcomes on many metrics in general. If 99% of men who tried to jump across a cliff died, the 1% who make it across still appear like winners. But that doesn't mean that jumping across the cliff is a good idea. That is also why we sacrifice men in wars, why they are more likely to participate in competitive sports.

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Survivorship_bias

You people need to stop reasoning backwards. For example, just because white people earn more does not mean you can reason backwards and blame white people for it. Black people voting for causes that hurt them does not make it white people's fault. Trannies being men does not mean that it's driven by men in general.

[–]Ossidiana 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'll tell you again. Ask yourself who will benefit from it, and you will find out who is the cause. You'll find out who benefits from white people earning more is.... white people. And who benefits from the trans wave is men.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Who benefitted from the migrant crisis and who voted for it? People do not always vote in their own interests. Women saw poor migrant children, they said "open up the borders!" Men overwhelmingly said it was a bad idea. Now those men they rescued are raping women. Did men conspire against women to be raped by middle eastern men?

Your logic of who benefits from what doesn't hold. White people do not benefit from the woke nonsense, yet many participate in it. Why? Some people are stupid. In fact, that's a trait of stupid people: they tend to act against their own interests. You can shove your argument about who benefits from what where the sun won't shine.

If you want to talk about cause and effect, you look at cause and effect, not simply the outcome and reason backwards in this half-assed manner. Look where the root cause is and what the causal chain of events was. Anything else is on par with the same braindead logic that convinced so many people of the wage gap.

[–]Ossidiana 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Who benefitted from the migrant crisis and who voted for it? People do not always vote in their own interests. Women saw poor migrant children, they said "open up the borders!" Men overwhelmingly said it was a bad idea. Now those men they rescued are raping women. Did men conspire against women to be raped by middle eastern men?

Rich people benefit from the migrant crisis. It's why it's happening: because our leaders want it.

As for the people who vote for it: it's called propaganda. Making it seem like you're a horrible person who want poor people to die if you don't want hordes of migrants in your country..... but not everyone stops and realizes the government who's promoting wouldn't spend millions for a good cause. It'd spend them to make more millions. Propaganda is also "you're a horrible person who wants to kill transexuals" if you say that giving experimental medicines to healthy kids is an abuse. Propaganda is also "you want to murder babies" if you say abortion must be legal.

Three words: getting a culture. The more you learn, the less you fall for emotional propaganda. For example, migrants crisis happened frequently through all of human history. Heck, even the word "barbaric" was born from an ancient migrant crisis.

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The simple answer is that synchronicity will be established through the Global Consciousness Project. See what Edgar Mitchell saw, my brother.