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[–]america_first_1776 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (27 children)

So you're comparing the efficiency of the largest corporation on earth to the efficiency (and political motives) of the U.S. government? Since Covid, it's estimated that in some local elections, up to 20% of mail in ballots were fraudulent.. Add to the fact that the American Postal Workers Union endorsed Joe Biden for president, and you have a disaster waiting to happen.

[–]quickbeam 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

This shows very little understanding of how votes are counted or where fraud would likely show up. The postal workers don't even open the ballots and why would they disappear a bunch of ballots? It would be very difficult to do with physical ballots (much easier to disappear electronic votes on easily hacked voting machines) and they'd have no idea who any of these people are voting for anyway. The federal government, moreover, is currently controlled by Republicans who would have a much easier time hacking the vote if hacking were to occur since they are in charge of more of the infrastructure and have a Supreme Court majority. Either way, though, it's a lot harder to steal an election than you seem to think. The election has to be very close to make it credibly steal-able. I think the reason Trump wants to delay is he's starting to see that it's not going to be close because of how much he dropped the ball on Covid. If he were a sensible person he would realize that stopping the spread of Covid is literally the only way he could win in November, but he's either too dumb to see that or it's gone so far that we wouldn't be able to stop it without the most draconian measures.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (23 children)

Truther Top 40+ Ways Voting Is A Rigged Joke

I have more confidence a letter will reach Santa at the North Pole than there could ever be an honest election.

It's not difficult to rig an election when 5 monopolies control all the media and the executives sit on each other's boards and hang out at the Bilderberg meetings.
/s/memes/comments/5odg/all_your_porn_is_belong_to_mindgeek/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_of_media_ownership#Top_Five

"If voting were effective it would be illegal."

[–]quickbeam 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (22 children)

Uh huh, great. So if you think the voting is all going to be rigged anyway, at least we could let people stay home and not get Covid on top of everything else.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

Assuming you buy into the SCAMDEMIC.

Have a critical look at these subs and tell me if you still buy into it.

/s/911truth
/s/Bill_Gates_is_Evil
/s/Billionaires
/s/ClimateSkeptics
/s/Coronavirus
/s/CorruptScience
/s/Gaslighting
/s/Illusions
/s/LockdownSkepticism
/s/OpenScience_Scientism
/s/PsyOps
/s/pushback
/s/Unrest
/s/VaccineSkepticism

The corporatocracy lies for profit. Completely doubt them.

[–]quickbeam 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

Call me crazy, but I tend to trust doctors/nurses and primary sources like medical research when it comes to diseases, rather than scouring through a bunch of rando internet forums. A former teacher of mine had to be hospitalized for Covid, as did both of one of my friend's parents, so excuse me if I think that it's worthwhile not to gather in crowded spaces or wear a piece of cloth over my face. Also, other countries exist and I see how they've handled the virus. I have friends working abroad all over the world and most of them have been able to resume semi-normal lives because their governments aren't being held captive by anti-science types.

I'm not 100% against conspiracy theories either, but they have to have A) a credible motive B) be something that could actually be kept secret by the amount of people who would need to keep it secret. These Covid conspiracy theories have neither, but especially not B. And even if some of these theories had any truth to them they'd have no relevance to whether we should vote by mail which is no different than voting in person because again, everything gets tabulated by the same people using the same systems and mail-in ballots would 100% be invalidated if those voters weren't on the lists of registered voters that the city clerks and poll workers use to check for voting integrity.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

My dad, brother, several other family members, and an ex are doctors. They know what they're told to know. They may be well meaning and not corrupt but the entire system is. I trusted blindly in their scientism and it cost me a dozen years and almost my life. If the science is not open then it's not science - it's blind faith scientism dogma. We the people need to verify and validate all their private "science" for profit (motive enough for corruption). Not just the corporations, but all instututions, from education to NGOs to charities, and everyone behind a paywall and/or making profits from our perpetual health/sickcare. It's no secret that more than half of the shit published in "peer-reviewed" journals is never reviewed or is sensationalist bunk science to get them more grant funding.

If the doctors are to be trusted why are they censoring so many that don't agree with the manufactured "mainstream" corporatocracy narrative? Don't trust us randos. Don't trust the MSM either. Verify yourself. Do your own research. Find opposing views and make up your own mind. Also, be aware that just as they have an army in the MSM, they have an army in the alt-media to propagate misinfo and discredit all things alternative in order to prop up the "authorities".

I'm not anti-science. I'm anti-scientism, aka anti-corporate-science-faith, or in other words - I'm for transparent open-science. Trust but verify.

Many conspiracy theories are not even secrets. They just have to be denied enough in the MSM, assuming they even reach it. The majority of people simply aren't motivated for whatever reason(s) to actually become aware of the endless myriad of issues we're all subject to. They don't need secrets to control us all - they just need the majority ignorant and/or acquiescing under their monopoly on violence.

If you are serious about finding the motives for the COVID-1984 scamdemic, you really must watch these documentaries. They may seem extreme and crazy, but I assure you it can all be backed up.

/s/CorbettCommenters/comments/rlc/big_oil/
    in 24 parts: How and Why Big Oil Conquered the World

/s/Documentaries/comments/4u66/who_is_bill_gates/
    also in 4 parts: /s/Documentaries/comments/4krk/who_is_bill_gates_must_see_documentary_by_james/

/s/conspiracy/comments/3op0/who_was_bill_gates_before_microsoft/

You may also want to check out the censored Plandemic short documentary and Event 202: https://saidit.net/search?q=Plandemic https://saidit.net/search?q=Event+202

Further check out these censored doctors: Dr. Shiva, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, and more: https://saidit.net/s/Coronavirus/search?q=censor+doctor&restrict_sr=on or just read all the pros and cons in /s/Coronavirus and make up your own mind after getting all the info.

The greater /s/Agenda21_Agenda2030/ of the /s/Corporatocracy (and /s/Technocracy will be made tomorrow) will be in these new subs. Believe it or not, it's still in your best interest to be aware of these "conspiracy theories".

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    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    Please feel free to post that and more in /s/Agenda21_Agenda2030. You could become co-mod too, if you're interested.

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      [–]scrubking[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      "Why Did They Censor 'America's Frontline Doctors'?" (32:50) ~ RonPaulLibertyReport

      [–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

      stay home and not get Covid

      even if they get it, their chances of dying or even getting a little sick is almost zero

      [–]quickbeam 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      Nope. And I don't like the odds of going to a public place where there's even a 1/1000 chance of dying. Imagine someone saying to you "you can go to this polling place, but there's a 1/1000 chance you'll die and about a 200/1000 chance you'll be really sick for weeks. No fucking thank you. Let's even say a 20/1000 chance. I'll be real generous to your utter lack of concern for facts. Still not going. Those are not good odds for a thinking person.

      [–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

      Were you just as panicky when 0bama was President, and SARS/swine flu were sweeping the nation? What about the flu? Every year it kills 500,000 globally. Where is the panic? Just stay home forever, do us a favor.

      [–]quickbeam 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Yes, yes, this entire worldwide pandemic is just a conspiracy to hurt poor old Donnie. Never mind that every fucking country changed their way of life in order to deal with it. I actually have friends who live and work in other countries, (and used to work abroad myself), so I'm not caught in this ridiculous provincial perspective that some of y'all seem to have.

      [–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      It's not so much a conspiracy as a mindset. Add to that 'people have gotten soft', plus 'the world follows America's lead'. Shitbirds like you panicking over something that has .00000000000001% chance of giving you a runny nose is pathetic. Just stay under your bed forever, we won't miss you, honey.

      [–]quickbeam 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I hope you don't get Covid. Even though you are not particularly pleasant on the internet I wouldn't wish a serious case of Covid on anyone.

      [–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      why would they disappear a bunch of ballots?

      yes, that is totally crazy conspiracy theorist nonsense, fellow (((white))) man!

      [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      ^

      Plus, IMO, the US Postal Service (and Canada for that matter) should offer email services for the masses and anyone, within or without, that tampers with that "mail" would be subject to severe punishment. Further, they could also provide voting services, though I'd rather see open-source coded and transparent voting. Though somehow they'd likely find a way to tamper with it and add to the already over 40 ways to rig the vote, perpetually active at every level.