Twitter Suspends Donald Trump Jr. After He Posts Viral Video on Successful HCQ Treatment for COVID-19

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I'm sure Trump's top people are "monitoring the situation" as we speak.

[–]AFutureConcern 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

If they don't take action after this they are confirmed to be completely controlled opposition. It's honestly unbelievable how the leftists on Twitter are fully in favor of this censorship. We warned this would happen, years ago - and it's truly only the right that cares, and they won't do anything to stop it. Dark times ahead...

[–]scrubking[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Problem is GOP is too scared to do anything. They won't stand up for anything for fear they will lose an election.

[–]america_first_1776 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They won't stand up for anything because they're in on it too.

[–]King_Brutus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I'm not going to speak on the effectiveness of HCQ or if masks do or do not prevent spread because I'm not a virologist (the medical field in general doesn't agree on HCQ being an approved treatment at this time though), but isn't that the doctor who has made other wild claims such as diseases being caused by demons, witches, and aliens?

[–]Extract 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

isn't that the doctor who

Nah, it isn't. But nice of you to agree he is a doctor after up-voting a different user implying the opposite literally minutes ago in a different thread.

You seem to be really interested in discrediting this video without providing any actually evidence to the contrary.

Here is a nice Tim Pool video with actual facts to support his claims about the subject, which much more than those few people trying to discredit this video on here have provided so far.

[–]King_Brutus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Stella Immanuel is who I am talking about and yes, she did.

[–]Extract 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Then provide links.
And not to the fake news sites that "claim" she said those things - actual evidence.
Because while I believe she did preach some anti-gay stuff (something anybody in 2002 Texas church would do), when it comes to crazy conspiracy theories all I see is "Yeah she totally said those things, trust me bro".

[–]King_Brutus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Here's an excerpt of her sermon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lGXc83xWOI

The claims of her past statements have some basis in reality. But that's beside the point of HCQ curing COVID which it has been proven not to and in fact causes severe heart problems: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2020/OSE%20Review_Hydroxychloroquine-Cholorquine%20-%2019May2020_Redacted.pdf

I agree the censorship is bad and big tech shouldn't be deciding what is and is not posted, but HCQ at least at this point has been reviewed as dangerous and not a treatment for COVID.

[–]Extract 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Thanks for finally providing the link.

Now that you have provided claims based on evidence, I can finally respond that claiming the other doctors are wrong because this one says the same thing is guild by association, a logical fallacy.

If you actually listen to the vid I linked, you can see those doctors refer to a legitimate, peer reviewed paper.
Also, you will hear about democratic states granting pharmacists the authority to override doctor prescription of HCQ.
Would they really be doing that if it was ineffective? Come on, any sane person who has been following the recent news knows they'd gladly let the people take the meds and die, then have a field day in the media how Trump is to blame by promoting it.
Instead, they do anything they can to block people from buying and taking it. Why is that?

[–]King_Brutus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

legitimate, peer reviewed paper

I would like to see that study that they are referencing, because the study that I linked states the exact opposite of what the doctors are claiming. Also, if we're doing fallacies, that's an appeal to authority.

The FDA has officially gone on record and recommends against the use of HCQ. They also revoked the Emergency Use Authorization back in April for HCQ so I'll need a source on overriding pharmacist prescriptions.

With the information available SO FAR, HCQ is not an effective treatment and does more harm than good. That could change because proper clinical trials take time, but rushing to judgment on a not properly vetted or tested drug for a new strand of disease can have greater consequences than the problems it will "solve".

To your point's credit, I have found one source that indicates a possibility of HCQ being a treatment: https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study but rushing to treatment is such an insanely bad idea.

[–]Extract 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Watch the video itself.

If you take proper dosage (200ml/week for 2 weeks), rather than the ridiculous amounts the WHO and similar organizations used (IIRC it some used about 250ml on the first DAY), it becomes exponentially safer.

Hell, you can look around for existing HCQ measures against malaria. The dosages there have been used for years. Why, exactly, are the same dosages "dangerous" now?

And, if it's so dangerous in general, why is it sold over the counter in most of the world? Why do citizens of countries like Iran and India get the freedom to choose which slightly risky medication they use, but Americans don't?

[–]scrubking[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People have been using HCQ forever, but now it is evil and DANGEROUS. I wonder why.

[–]King_Brutus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dude, you can't just use a single drug all the time for multiple conditions. Sometimes it works and sometimes it has different interactions with the specific disease. That's why doctors ask for your medical history for different medications. This isn't that hard to work out. It causes severe heart problems with COVID, but is fine to use for other treatments.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It works exceptionally in acute stages of the infection. Search pubmed For studies.

[–]whateverneverpine 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes it is.

[–]Shadow_Death 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm waiting for the next article, "Twitter suspends Donald Trump Jr's account for being Donald Trump Jr".