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[–]chadwickofwv 15 insightful - 13 fun15 insightful - 12 fun16 insightful - 13 fun -  (0 children)

I guess I'll have to tell them to fuck off several times then.

[–]Questionable 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

Spoken like a true super villain.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Didn't he try to block out the sun at one point? He's the living, breathing version of Mr. Burns

[–]Questionable 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Though most people don't realize it, he is associated with this radical plan. Yes.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Burns is Jacob Rothschild

[–]beermeem 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

Is Bill Gates now an immunologist? Oh, no, that’s right — he just wants trillions of dollars for building a national database of ALLLLLL the people and whether they’ve been vaccinated 2, 3, 4, or 18 times!

[–]yayblueberries 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

We do live in a country now where if you're a legitimate researcher or scientist then nobody will listen to you, but if you are a politician, actor, billionaire, douchebag, pedo, or whatever else, you're good and everybody will pretend you are the country's top scientist and believe everything you say.

[–]soundsalad 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Because the CIA has blackmail/compromat on these people and so they are pushed to the forefront. They can essentially be made to do or say whatever the CIA wants. On a similar note, I wonder how many governors or heads of state have accepted bribes or are being blackmailed to enact stricter COVID-19 measures.

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Same as it ever was?

[–]Questionable 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

\72. That's how many vaccines children in America have to endure. And not a single mention of vaccine injuries is allowed.

https://vaxopedia.org/2018/07/15/do-kids-really-get-72-doses-of-vaccines/

Fun fact, the article claims it is ONLY 54, and that 72 is preposterous anti vax propaganda. Silly old stupid me!

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, there is an annual report from the vaccine court. But other than that, you're correct. All other info is protected under the guise of HIPAA and it can take 10-15 for a case to make it through the vaxx court.

It's just insane. What's most insane is that many people are simply saying all that's needed is a delay of 2-3 years before the application of vaccines to change medical outcomes. Personally, I believe I can attest to this. Even given the (relatively) few vaccines that were required when I was of age, My parents never vaxxed me until required to attend school. I never thought about it until much later but given my behavior and disposition pre and post vaxx, it's clear that I was impacted on about an asperger's type level. Meanwhile my cousin was given his full plate 2-3 years before me and is extremely autistic.

So many "anti-vaxx" aren't even anti-vaxx, they're just pro-choice in terms of timeline -- as reflected in the CDC's own numbers. This is one major reason I love Trump for his leaving the WHO and defunding the CDC. I literally can't believe some of my liberal "anti-vaxx" friends who still hate Trump and don't understand that he's actually doing something, more than any other President ever.

[–]thunderkitty 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

Considering the data that has come out basically saying that people who have gained natural immunity (they got sick and built up B lymphocytes of which, some will remain as memory cells) have it last a few months is disheartening. That is likely the reason that multiple doses would be necessary. The more the immune system is exposed to an antigen (some sort of protein that evokes an immune response), the more memory cells are saved and the more specific they become. I don't think it's for the money, it's to make sure the vaccine is actually effective.

All of that goes out the window though if the virus mutates enough that the vaccine is no longer protective. It will be a fine balance between getting people to get the vaccine and getting enough of the population immunized actually protected (since vaccines aren't magical things that automatically protect you, there is a certain percent of people who will get the vaccine and won't develop a protective or adequate response, which is why we need HEEEEERRRRD IMMUNITY).

Edit: I didn't really discuss memory T cells, but they are also important in protecting against a virus as they will be the ones killing cells that are infected with the virus. Same issue still applies though: you need to get enough of them to stick around long enough to give protection.

[–]yayblueberries 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

There is a certain percent of the population that CANNOT get vaccines because of them exacerbating health problems they already have, too. I'm tired of people forgetting this.

[–]beermeem 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, like not wanting to be sterilized...

[–]beermeem 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Wait, vaccines aren’t magical things that automatically protect? Next you’ll be telling me I should read the warning labels for side effects!

[–]Questionable 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I don't believe they have warning labels. They are exempt from legal action, testing or liability.

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There are reaction warnings on the label about causing the type of health problems that Pharma corps claim they don't cause. People are clearly warned, and if they fail to heed it, in Pharma's opinion, you deserve what you get.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I suppose most people wouldn't know, sense they don't handle the packaging.

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They are exempt from lawsuit. There is a special legal process. Just look up vaccine court. It has awarded over $5B in damages.

They do have labels which enunciate side effects.

Why is this feeling like Reddit Stage #1 where people provide misinformation by simply "pretending" they don't know very obvious information that is publicly available.

You are entirely 100% incorrect. Please stop spreading misinformation when said information is readily available on google.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Forced vaccinations, forced dress code, forced taxes are all tyrannical if there is no oversight, no representation.

Listen to us. We are not represented in the GovCorp. Money is. That is a factual truth, and you can't argue that with me. I've been involved in local politics and I've seen it. And financial statements and things like that are fairly easy to track. Honestly, if you don't realize how corporatized world politics has become, then you aren't living in reality.

If a vaccine does hurt me, I have very little recourse to get justice for that. For that very reason alone, I will not side with mandatory vaccinations.

Do you want to put people in jail because they said no to a needle full of unknown stuff? Is that just? Is that respectful of people's liberty?

You can get seven vaccines for covid if you want. I want you to have that freedom.

Just support my freedom to say no.

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Um.. Except, getting a vaccine for the wrong covid strain, will cause you to be more susceptible to others. Which is why they don't make vaccines for the common cold, which is a covid virus.

https://www.disabledveterans.org/2020/03/11/flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-risk/

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I know a few who have died of this so I'm not like most saying it's a hoax. I'll get the vaccine, though I am wary about most vaccines. I think they do cause problems including autism. I know if I get this corona vaccine it will likely slightly hurt me but getting corona is worse.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You are free to take any shot you want. Hell, take some heroin if you want! I support liberty!

Please support my freedom to say no to unwanted needles entering my bloodstream. I don't care if it's full of immortality medicine. No thank you.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

but you're only against vaccines because you believe fake news, you don't even admit they are good at all

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The vaccine is worse than the virus, Here's the rundown: Doctors Warning.

https://www.invidio.us/watch?time_continue=84&v=mx6Qu-xQE1Y&feature=emb_logo

[–]WildKarrde 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, that's still gonna be a "no" from me.

[–]mvota 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Aren't vaccines generally multi dose?

[–]Scrubjay 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

"I'm sorry, but we have to keep injecting you/your child until your insurance tops out. It's the only way to get herd immunity."

[–]mvota 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Insurance for vaccines? I don't think I've ever paid for them except through county taxes, I don't pay for them at the local health department.

[–]Scrubjay 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then everyone else is paying for yours.

[–]Questionable 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No, most doses contain multiple vaccines. So you have it the other way around.

[–]mvota 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you look an at immunization schedule, many vaccines need multiple doses. It is true that each shot can contain multiple vaccines, but they are given multiple times as well.

[–]Hellothereawesome 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bill gates needs to stop

[–]iraelmossadreddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

tally ho lads