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[–]WooWhoVintage[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (35 children)

That's an outright lie.

In very socialist nations that have all those social programs and support for unwed mothers they still have abortion rates similar to the United States. In Canada 20% of all pregnancies end in abortion.

As for what programs are available outside of the government, Last year my church paid for the medical bills of 3 women. Several of us, including myself, took in to our homes pregnant women and almost half of them were taught a trade.

However the biggest thing that we need are alcohol and drug addiction programs. Because as we've learned, the majority of unwanted pregnancies begin with "I was drunk or I was stoned." Following those reasons at a distant 3rd were "I wanted to make the relationship work."

[–]radfem 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

Actually the leading reason for elective abortions in the US were financial.

Pregnant women shouldn’t need to beg like leper’s hat in hand at churches in the hopes that they won’t starve to death trying to make it through pregnancies people shame them into keeping yet refuse to fund publicly through taxes.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of single mothers wind up below the poverty line, so no offense to your church but it’s actions aren’t enough for idiots to be sign painting.

Also, you're not even correct about the abortion rates.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/abortion-rates-by-country

[–]WooWhoVintage[S] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (33 children)

Actually the leading reason for elective abortions in the US were financial.

Then don't have intercourse. Take responsibility for yourself and avoid having intercourse. And I'm using the word "Intercourse" because I'm still cutting some slack and saying if someone is incapable (for whatever reason) of using birth control then they can still indulge in outercourse instead of intercourse.

But honestly, this "financial" excuse is a line of pure garbage. No one ever explains 1. "how much they need" and 2. why only the wealthy should have children.

[–]radfem 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

Ah so we've moved right from... we do help women... to women should just close their legs...

I'm so surprised.

Meanwhile, are women impregnating themselves? Why is it you people never tell men to have vasectomies before they have sex? Why is it that only women need to suffer the indignity of medical procedures they don't consent to?

Why aren't ya'll protesting outside of men's college dorms with pictures of dead babies screaming at them to go get snipped up before they accidentally force some poor young girl to have an abortion just because they were too lazy to use the only form of birth control that is side effect free, foolproof, cheap and readily available.

I'm genuinely curious why ya'll claim to support women yet literally always pretend like women with accidental pregnancies were masturbating when they got that way.

[–]WooWhoVintage[S] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (31 children)

You're just a scum bag

[–]radfem 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

For suggesting men be held accountable for the lives they help make. I'm so not surprised that you think so.

It's actually amazing how many of you people get significantly less righteous about abusing people and protesting and stripping bodily autonomy when men are suddenly the ones being talked about.

It's almost like preserving life isn't at the core of your morals...

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

Being an actual Misandrist, you're always entertaining. Whenever I think I'm being overly critical or too much of a jerk, you remind me that I'm actually doing okay as a person.

[–]radfem 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Did you just admit that all prolifers and anyone who doesn't 100% support abortions and full female bodily autonomy are misogynists?

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

You are compulsively obsessed with Misandry. I used to hope you were a troll, but you're sadly probably not. So we all just have to come to terms with it, together we'll get through this...whatever "this" is and wherever "through" goes.

[–]radfem 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Buddy if we agree that all prolifers are misogynists and that not supporting the full bodily autonomy of women is wrong then we really don't have anything to discuss here. Glad to see your on my side though.

[–]Retro-Housewife 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The woman is nuts. She's part of this current trend of playing the victim plus she's lesbian. It wasn't that long ago that I was believing that I was living as a lesbian. Needless to say, I didn't meet too many that were pro-family or pro-males. There was a lot of claims that they were but there always remained an underlying arrogance that they were somehow better than men and that women that loved men were 'misguided.'

It's a mental illness and the best way to handle the mentally ill is to not argue with them. Just be polite to them and they'll eventually get bored and walk away.

[–]WooWhoVintage[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (24 children)

Your kind plays the same game over and over again and each time you act like you're some sort of savoir on a moral mission. In the end, your kind is just subhuman garbage practicing a form of Nazi style eugenics.

None of you screaming 'health care' and 'compassion' do a damn thing for anyone. You don't know any of these women and you don't want to get to know any of them. It's all about you being able to screw without responsibility. All anyone can do is pray for people like you.

[–]radfem 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Buddy you don't know your history, forcing women to give birth was part of Nazi eugenics and a number of nurses saved many women by giving them secret abortions so they wouldn't be used as test subjects.

Maybe go do some reading on the topic before you try to insult me any further.

[–]WooWhoVintage[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

You said it yourself, the poor don't have a right to live. Sorry, but that's eugenics.

[–]radfem 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thousands of poor women die in labour every year because of improper medical care... someone here hates poor people and thinks they should just die, but I don’t think it’s me.

[–]Retro-Housewife 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

I'm Jewish Orthodox so perhaps you can educate me. I'm alive because my grandfather survived the death camps but I'm sure he forgot to mention a few things. So I look forward to you sharing your great knowledge on this subject.

[–]radfem 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Actually there’s several great free classes and phenomenal books I could pass along if you like. My wife’s also of Polish decent and one of her great aunts, a gay woman, was used as a test subject in the regimes later years which involved impregnation through rape. Sadly she didn’t survive the inhuman treatment.

So yeah I think we’d actually both have a lot to share.

[–]bald-janitor 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Liberal propaganda

[–]AngelFirePi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

According to the "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" and the documentary "The World at War" the Nazis used abortion as an integral part of their eugenics program. If you would like page and episode numbers, I can provide those.

[–]radfem 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And abortions were used by jewish doctors to save women's lives.

I can give you an entire biography on it if you'd like.

But I'm not the one insisting people are Nazis for sharing basic medical practices here.