Can we please talk about the Muslim concentration camps in China and REDDIT?

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[–]oneinchterror 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Does "the left" really support China though? Tankies, sure, but I've definitely not seen anything but broad condemnation of China from the mainstream "left". In fact, most of them seemed to be supportive of protestors in Hong Kong (whether or not it was astroturfed).

[–]ragnarkar 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Although my political views change over time and are never static, I currently consider myself left-leaning. I'm both anti-CCP and anti-Trump. I find it bizarre when people assume that being anti-CCP means you support Trump.. in fact, I see a lot more similarities between the CCP and the Trump regime.

[–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You did see all of Trump's anti-China rhetoric since even before running for President, right? Just want a sanity check here. Because he was doing it before it was 'cool.' A lot of rhino Republicans were still spouting the Libertarian nonsense about how increased trade equals increased Democracy. You'll notice a lot of those same "republicans" are awfully quiet now that it's obvious the money went to fuel the CCP's oppression machine.

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I'm a little disappointed in the arguments on this thread as the situation seems pretty obvious. CCP invests in Reddit to propagandize. Muslims are pretty much hated in the west.

This doesn't change the fact that CCP under Xi is running vile genocide against Uighers and their apparatus appears as a modern version of authoritarian regimes like Hitler, Stalin, Pinochet or Trujillo.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They talk one way in public and another behind closed doors. The Democrats (I assume that's what you mean by mainstream left?) take Chinese "donations" and vote for all these disastrous trade deals that hurt American citizens. They'll claim to be anti-China, however, their voting record will quickly show that not to be true. Even many Republicans are in bed with the Chinese, like McConnell.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Does "the left" really support China though?

Not in the manner which you are suggesting. It has nothing to do with communism vs capitalism. It's an oligarchic system where billionaires from China and the West share business partnerships and have overarching goals to have a pacified populace- think of it as an algorithm for power. You can pool the most power by combining populaces/markets and making sure that they are compliant. "The left" favor more collectivist goals and as such are more on board with amoral power consolidation than oligarchs that lean right.